So everybody on the left is stupid because you subscribe to Glen Beck/Paul Ryan ideology? C'mon av, you're being ridiculous.
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menotyou
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I listened to Glen Beck when he wasn't a millionaire. He made sense then. Now, he's either putting on a show to get viewers/listeners, or he's insane.
I think he's putting on a show. I read the interview with him (Time?) and he comes off as a far more reasonable and thoughtful individual with a great sense of humor. But, I'm a capitalist so I like that he's doing well. I just wonder if others get the full scope of what he's doing.
av8torntn
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wkmac
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The fact is, clean water, education and food quality are already in the hands of market forces and were that way from day one. If you think otherwise, you should research the history of gov't operations in that area, ignore the feelgood rhetoric of politicians. Those very private market forces who wanted to starve out competition, most all of that small in scale, local and responsive to local quality of life, and at the least create monopolized/cartelized markets have succeeded is shifting all economic power to the top and regulatory capture to control it. The very thing of clean water, quality food and education beg to be localized and locally controlled.
You mentioned the Eisenhower Interstate System and most people think he came up with the entire idea. In some respects he did but his influence was the German Autobahn model but there is more to this story. In 1953', Eisenhower appointed to Sec. of Defense, the current General Motors head Charles Erwin Wilson and in 1955' he helped map out what would become in 1956' the Interstate Highway System under the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956'. With broad general train services between towns and cities, surely Wilson's interests would never benefit the bottom line of GM?
And not stopping there, go back another decade or 2 and we have a man by the name of Thomas McDonald and the important role he played in what we now call the interstate highway system. I you think the idea was all new with Eisenhower, think again. And who was McDonald connected with and what interests would they have in such a highway endeavor?
Surely all these private interests were all motivated by the highest of civic virtue!
Then again, maybe you've been "Taken For A Ride" like the rest of us.
Taken for a Ride (Full Length Documentary) - YouTube
The markets have always been rigged, the fallacy of statist is to accuse the latest "market" implosion as a result of un-regulation, that ole' free market boogie man when just the opposite is true. The markets blew up because thanks to statism, markets were manipulated by the use of regulation and gov't capture. The current economic model is showing what many radical leftists, anarchists and market libertarians have concluded and that is capitalism can only exist with a state and the large scale state needs capitalism as it's economic engine. Kill either and you kill both.
Because "EIB" and "The Blaze" aren't real universities.
av8torntn
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So because I do not know what EIB and The Blaze mean that makes me ridiculous? I'm not following you but it's possible that because you know what that means it makes you the ridiculous one.
av8torntn
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That's very true. It is very evident every campaign season when the talk of some fantasy deregulation comes up as a blame for all woes.
Lue C Fur
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menotyou
bella amicizia
My uncle(the right-wing mooch, but I still love him
) emails me a 'Hi' from The Blaze almost every morning. Breaking news and opinion on The BlazeEIB is Is his network/university or something like that. Home - Rush Limbaugh - The Rush Limbaugh Show
Both Limbaugh and Beck refer to what they do on the air as "institutions" for conservative learning, but in reality, they teach nothing about conservatism, instead, they just find ways to distort facts and figures as they slam the president.
The EIB, or excellence in broadcasting is something RUSH annointed himself from the narcissistic institute of stupitidy. Beck comes in a close second.
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The EIB, or excellence in broadcasting is something RUSH annointed himself from the narcissistic institute of stupitidy. Beck comes in a close second.
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av8torntn
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My uncle(the right-wing mooch, but I still love him
EIB is Is his network/university or something like that. Home - Rush Limbaugh - The Rush Limbaugh Show
Thanks!! I had heard of Limbaugh before but didn't know he was referred to as EIB but I hadn't seen the Blaze and there were some interesting stories on there.
menotyou
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I think Limbaugh is hilarious and listen to him when I'm working. I don't prescribe to his beliefs, but I find him to be very entertaining.
The articles Uncle Mike send me are always interesting.
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MenInBrown
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If everyone could read as good as you we would all have the back of Obamas head as our proile pic. Good words except I didnt say I would invest in foreign cars...I understand you may not know of another American Auto company by the name of FORD did not take tax dollars. And also I know you wouldnt understand that to just bailout GM, they did not address any of their problems...Im all for union workers getting what they deserve as long as the company can afford...that was the problem. You did know that didnt you? Bankruptcy does not mean a company goes away...it allows the company to start over and rebuild to be stronger...but lets kick the can down the road...bc of the bailout GM is in just as much trouble now to go out of business than before.
moreluck
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It looks the same as Obama runs this country.
Necropostophiliac
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Saw this today from the Liberal AOL / Huffington Post.
It's been a bad two days for electric cars.
First, the Congressional Budget Office skewered the government's rebate program for electric car buyers, saying
the program doesn't actually do anything to boost electric-car sales.
Then Toyota announced it is scrapping plans for a small all-electric car, according to Reuters, because nobody wants them.
And on Tuesday, electric car maker Tesla said it is cutting its 2012 revenue projections because production of its
heralded Model S car have been too slow.
The same day, Consumer Reports announced they find the $100,000 extended-range electric Fisker Karma to be "plagued with flaws."
Taken all together, the news is making conservatives ecstatic. They've mocked, ridiculed and been downright angry
about the money the Obama administration is pouring into hybrid and electric cars.
They argue the government is meddling in a market of stuff nobody wants to buy.
"What Obama did was use the power of government money to insert himself into market decisions that he was
ultimately dead wrong on," said Ben Howe, a blogger and video producer from South Carolina who made a parody
commercial of the Chevy Volt.
Although light on facts, the parody demonstrates how some people see the Volt and other battery-powered cars: As a joke.
Government Skewers Its Own Investments In Electric Cars
It's been a bad two days for electric cars.
First, the Congressional Budget Office skewered the government's rebate program for electric car buyers, saying
the program doesn't actually do anything to boost electric-car sales.
Then Toyota announced it is scrapping plans for a small all-electric car, according to Reuters, because nobody wants them.
And on Tuesday, electric car maker Tesla said it is cutting its 2012 revenue projections because production of its
heralded Model S car have been too slow.
The same day, Consumer Reports announced they find the $100,000 extended-range electric Fisker Karma to be "plagued with flaws."
Taken all together, the news is making conservatives ecstatic. They've mocked, ridiculed and been downright angry
about the money the Obama administration is pouring into hybrid and electric cars.
They argue the government is meddling in a market of stuff nobody wants to buy.
"What Obama did was use the power of government money to insert himself into market decisions that he was
ultimately dead wrong on," said Ben Howe, a blogger and video producer from South Carolina who made a parody
commercial of the Chevy Volt.
Although light on facts, the parody demonstrates how some people see the Volt and other battery-powered cars: As a joke.
Government Skewers Its Own Investments In Electric Cars
Lue C Fur
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Another fail for Obama and Goverment motors:
President Obama touted it in 2010 as evidence "manufacturing jobs are coming back to the United States,” but two years later, a Michigan hybrid battery plant built with $150 million in taxpayer funds is putting workers on furlough before a single battery has been produced.
Read more: Plant that got $150M in taxpayer money to make Volt batteries furloughs workers | Fox News
President Obama touted it in 2010 as evidence "manufacturing jobs are coming back to the United States,” but two years later, a Michigan hybrid battery plant built with $150 million in taxpayer funds is putting workers on furlough before a single battery has been produced.
Read more: Plant that got $150M in taxpayer money to make Volt batteries furloughs workers | Fox News
Lue C Fur
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Workers at Chevy Volt battery plant built with federal money paid to do nothing for months
Workers at Chevy Volt battery plant built with federal money paid to do nothing for months | Motoramic - Yahoo! Autos
Workers at Chevy Volt battery plant built with federal money paid to do nothing for months | Motoramic - Yahoo! Autos
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MenInBrown
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I can deal with that better than paying a Prez and his staff 4 years to do nothing.
