DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
nothing i love to watch the cars go 'round.
it's therapeutic.
Gun Free Zones
- Thread starter El Correcto
- Start date
it's therapeutic.
Well the problem is that we are set up as a nation so that the Supreme Court determines whether or not laws are constitutional or not and not your opinion on the matter.
And yes. That’s constitutional.
El Correcto
god is dead
It might be made legal, but I don’t think it’s constitutional.
Probably was made legal, challenged and found to be constitutional.
El Correcto
god is dead
I’d disagree. Supreme courts are made up of people like every other branch of government. People are fallible and make bad decisions based on the time they live in. We live in a post constitutional regime. It’s no longer about what is constitutional, it’s about centralizing our federal government. It’s going to get to a point where it doesn’t even matter what state you live in. It’ll be a formality if we consider those two clauses to give federal government scope on anything they please.
El Correcto
god is dead
I’m just curious in your mind where does federal power end and state powers begin?
Non sequitur
Well-Known Member
The entertainment industry most definitely echoes strange ideas to the young and impressionable. I found these lyrics by imagine dragon suspicious:
Just a young gun with a quick fuse
I was uptight, wanna let loose
I was dreaming of bigger things
And wanna leave my own life behind
Not a yes sir, not a follower
Fit the box, fit the mold
Have a seat in the foyer, take a number
I was lightning before the thunder
Thunder, thunder
Thunder, thun', thunder
Thun-thun-thunder, thunder, thunder
Thunder, thun', thunder
Thun-thun-thunder, thunder
Thunder, feel the thunder
Lightning and the thunder
Thunder, feel the thunder
Lightning and the thunder
Thunder, thunder
Thunder
Kids were laughing in my classes
While I was scheming for the masses
Who do you think you are?
Dreaming 'bout being a big star
They say you're basic, they say you're easy
You're always riding in the back seat
Now I'm smiling from the stage while
You were clapping in the nose bleeds
And I like this song. More things to worry about then some nut yelling Allah akbar.
Just a young gun with a quick fuse
I was uptight, wanna let loose
I was dreaming of bigger things
And wanna leave my own life behind
Not a yes sir, not a follower
Fit the box, fit the mold
Have a seat in the foyer, take a number
I was lightning before the thunder
Thunder, thunder
Thunder, thun', thunder
Thun-thun-thunder, thunder, thunder
Thunder, thun', thunder
Thun-thun-thunder, thunder
Thunder, feel the thunder
Lightning and the thunder
Thunder, feel the thunder
Lightning and the thunder
Thunder, thunder
Thunder
Kids were laughing in my classes
While I was scheming for the masses
Who do you think you are?
Dreaming 'bout being a big star
They say you're basic, they say you're easy
You're always riding in the back seat
Now I'm smiling from the stage while
You were clapping in the nose bleeds
And I like this song. More things to worry about then some nut yelling Allah akbar.
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
Waste of fuel.
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
better put on your pumped up kicks and run.
big deal.
people have been complaining for decades trying to blame it on music and tv and video games. it's bs. crazies gonna crazy.
tourists24
Well-Known Member
A lot of things are a waste of fuel according on who you ask
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
like ups venting the LNG tractors into the sky for example lol
Catatonic
Nine Lives
“consent of the governed” - not in the Constitution
This is in the Constitution and allows Congress (not the SCOTUS) the power to make new laws implied in the Constitution (and Amendments).
The Necessary and Proper Clause allows Congress "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for
carrying into execution the [enumerated] Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States,or in any Department or Officer thereof." (Article I, Section 8, Clause 18). It is also sometimes called the "elastic clause." It grants Congress the powers that are implied in the Constitution, but that are not explicitly stated. That is why the powers derived from the Necessary and Proper Clause are referred to as implied powers.
Last edited:
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
maybe if people weren't so busy stroking off into the constitution they'd realize it's written on paper not stone. it's vague on purpose people, open to interpretation and change, by design. seriously, some people act like it's the bible for a country of snake handlers lol.
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
ORION?
Consent of the governed not in the constitution? So? It was a driving concept in its drafting.
Consent of the governed - Wikipedia
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Regretfully, it is not in the Constitution which is the LAW of the USA.
PS - I already googled it and read your link and 2 others.
It is something I believe in but is not a legal premise.
You are arguing what the founders intended and I am arguing what has come to be and the Supreme Court has (as is its constitutional right) declared to be constitutional.
The Founders are dead. For good or for ill the future remains for today’s citizens to mold.
tourists24
Well-Known Member
Not as long as there are more “snake handler” originalist believers in constitutionality instead of the ones who think the meaning changes to fit the way they want it read. You may end up correct though when all is said and done by the way our court judges are nowadays
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
The meaning has changed, many times. For better and worse. You're just arguing that your meaning is the same as someone who has been dead for 200 years and can't say otherwise. Seems presumptuous.
El Correcto
god is dead
I notice you don’t answer, where do you think federal power ends and state power begins. The will of the governed can be expressed through state legislation. When the will of the governed in New York and California is being forced on Texas and Florida it’s called tyranny.