HOFFA , HALL AND OBRIEN campaign announcement
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Hahaha. Clueless
anHOURover
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It's the weekend to all them new englanders who think O is GOD!! all the roosters bow down to the O
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Have you heard of Access Point?
This is another form of subcontracting, along with Surepost. Hoffa and Hall are letting them get away with it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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How is Access Point subcontracting?
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No 2nd and 3rd attempts.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Are the 2nd and 3rd attempts being done by a different carrier?
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They're not being done by us! This is my point.
Are you familar with the service?
I'm not sure if the rest of the country has it yet.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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We don't have it here but it is being tested in several parts of our region.
I am personally not in favor of it but do see where they could be beneficial in a more urban setting.
Today I had a NI3 on a signature required in a townhouse complex (28 units). The consignee filled out the back of the info notice without bothering to read that I needed an actual signature at time friend delivery (Option B). There was no SDWC or DCR so I assume the package will be sent back. The consignee would have benefited has there been the option of forwarding the package to an Access Point.
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I understand, but this is taking more packages from our cars, this is the point I'm trying to make, also were not allowed to Access Point cell phones and other electronics.
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We completely X out the back signature area to stop that.
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Access Point delivery notice.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I normally do as well but for some reason didn't do it for this stop.
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If it is signature required after three attempts in should be post carded and held for five business days before being sent back
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I wasn't sure if that had been changed or not.
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Turdferguson
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No, but it has to be a shipper signature required, not one UPS signature required. Doesn't seem fair to me for people who live in apartments.
Dave, for someone who has been around a while, how do you NOT understand what this does?
"Subcontracting" , means, getting someone else to do the job we are suppose to do. By making one attempt, then sending the pkg to the UPS store for pickup, we lose two more attempts on the package.
If we lose two more attempts on a package, that will result in CUT ROUTES and FEWER DRIVERS.
If we lose drivers and routes, that hurts US.
There are so many implications to worry about when we lose contributors to our pension plans. The fewer the people contributing DAVE, the smaller the pension fund.
By not going to the same address the next day on a send again, shortens the business day and results in CUT HOURS.
The act of sending pkgs to the UPS store is a direct act of Subcontracting resulting in the forwarding the "progress" of ground & air packages by NON UPS bargaining unit members.
Maybe you should think outside the "box" Dave instead of drinking the koolaid while you hang out with managers who convince you that ORION is a great piece of engineering.
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Bubblehead
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Actually, on the second or third day the package is delivered to the UPS Store (access point) by a Teamster, so at most we lose one attempt?
In my local the clerks at the customer counter aren't Teamsters, so I don't see this as anything other than an alternate address or will call option designed to make it more convenient for the consignee.
In the end, if we don't provide customer friendly, marketable services, we lose repeat customers, volume, jobs, pension contributions, etc.
I think it's a reach to call this "subcontracting".
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