Already been determined that 72% of jobs "created" during Biden's term were just people returning to work after/during the pandemic. Let's see the panic when deflation starts.
Hunter Biden is going DOWN!
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Up In Smoke
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4 million more W2 employees and 5 million more K1 filers than in 2019.
2019 unemployment 3.6% and 5.9 million unemployed.*
2023 unemployment 3.7% and 6.3 million unemployed.*
Yet you're telling me there are 4 million more W-2 employees now vs 2019.
*Bureau of Labor Statistics, U.S. Dept of Labor.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Smoke and mirrors
Up In Smoke
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3.4 million more employed today compared to year end 2019. Small business creation was 1.2- 1.4 million per year since 2020.
Up In Smoke
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1.2-1.4 million more small businesses per year, adding more than 4 million K1 filers.
The only way there could be more employed today than in 2019 is many of the illegals doing grunt work are being counted since the U.S. gave them the right to be here and to work. But the stats I posted are from the Dept of Labor. Don't see an improvement in unemployment there.
Up In Smoke
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As populations grow, more people enter the workforce. The rate of unemployment can stay fixed while hundreds of thousands of people enter the workforce. Employment numbers are based on surveys of employers and their employer tax withholdings. Illegals with no SS number may be shown in those numbers, but their taxes and withholdings go to the government with no ability to file a return or qualify for SSI or Medicare.
The population with our birthrate isn't growing that fast in that short of a timespan. The one thing that would account for more people working today than in 2019 despite the unemployment rate being nearly equal is the 8 million illegal immigrants, mostly working age young men who were given the right by the Biden administration to seek employment. The 2020 Census didn't count these people yet and previous illegals often worked under phony papers and assumed identities. But these folks given asylum have been given the right to work. The government just sued SpaceX over not hiring these newcomers. Musk is against it for security reasons. And, before you say the difference isn't 8 million, a lot of them aren't working but are being supported. But a lot of them came here with the intention to work and send money home. And yes, if they can legally work and they put in enough quarters they can eventually draw Social Security.
Up In Smoke
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Birthing rates from 2003-2007 were some of the largest in the past 40 years. Those people began entering the labor force as the Covid restrictions were lifted in 2021. Our population grew by more than 11 million during that 4 year period. The 18-24 year old employment rate hit record levels during the 21-22 calendar years, but has since slowed as college/trade school enrollments have risen. (6% rise this fall)
newolddude
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You guys want to get rid of all the immigrants and make America pure again? You guys want to give those jobs to white Americans? Okay. Now convince those “real” Americans to pick crops, do construction labor, wash dishes/cook, clean hotel rooms etc
Thebrownblob
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Why do you twist everything and live in a fantasy world? Asking people to follow rules and be “legal immigrants” is not wanting just white Americans. You’re a race peddler and a troll. and apparently you think you’re cleaning hotel rooms and washing dishes. Disgusting.
Here’s a great idea let them all in and give every single one of them Social Security numbers the day they cross the border so they can pay their federal state and local taxes and be legal Americans and I bet most of them turn around and go home.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
He shouldn’t even be on this site, he does nothing but try and stir
all day. Obviously never worked at either UPS or FedEx. He’s a troll, nothing more. Ignore him.Man our birthrate has been on a steady decline since 1950. Numbers were higher in the 90's than the 2000's. But if you want to throw 8 million plus illegals into the mix in the last 3 years then the numbers make sense.
Thebrownblob
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Very true and people from Mexico and South America Generally don’t kill their most treasured things….. their children.
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We already have plenty of illegals doing all those things. We also have a legal immigration system. 8 million newcomers in 3 years, and more coming everyday, is swamping our system. The only reason for them being here is to eventually give the Democrats complete control. Meanwhile poor citizens needing assistance are being ignored in favor of the illegals.
Which gives me hope that when they do become citizens they won't vote Democratic.
Thebrownblob
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Most of them are not bad people. They are, however, breaking the law, the president swore an oath, to uphold the law but because we have terrible laws he’s pretending there’s nothing wrong, and the laws are being used as a weapon by political parties it’s hurting the immigrants and the taxpayers.
Thebrownblob
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Which is the reason why Democrats want to keep them illegal, because it helps keep them on the dole and under their thumb as much as possible. Democrats know full Well, if they get citizenship, they most likely will leave behind the Democratic Party because they will succeed. Without their “help”. Unfortunately, many in the Republican Party are not far behind their Democrat counterparts in this thinking.
Pretty sure the plan is to give them citizenship and have them dependent on Democratic assistance. Without citizenship they can't vote. Hispanic counties on the border have been reliably blue for decades. Ironically it's getting swamped with new arrivals that has quite a few voting Republican now.
