Immigration

vantexan

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Of course, what percentage is $10 billion of $60 billion?
We aren't talking 2 companies, but thousands. Are you under the impression there's a relative handful of people keeping everything for themselves? Can they pay more? They are to attract workers. Are crop pickers going to make $50k a year? In a state as expensive as yours they'd have to get paid a substantial amount just to have a living wage. Probably not going to happen. And just once I'd like to get an acknowledgement that I'm not talking about the way I want things to be, but how they actually are. Highly doubtful you're ever going to see manual laborers in any back breaking job getting paid well.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Come on, half the time drivers are sitting on their rears in a driver seat, it's not a straight ten hours of manual labor.
Depends on the route. You'll need years of seniority to get a route with that kind of seat time in most places. And when you're driving it's mental gymnastics for the young guys who run a different route everyday. Sure there's harder jobs but it is manual labor and can be high stress. Plus most drivers loaded for years to get it.
 

vantexan

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No, I know you guys work hard. But not the same as picking crops in the field. Not in the same universe. As for me, I went ahead to Georgia because it's easier to save money here. I can live on less than half my pension, send my wife $700 which is going entirely on our car, and send my parents money. In May the car will be paid for, she'll then sell it to pay off her credit card and tie up loose ends, and come join me. When you make the kind of money you do it's easy to pay for this or that. Some of us have to sacrifice a little to get where we want to be. And I'll put the work I've done for FedEx up against what you've done any day. But I have heart disease and diabetes and am determined to have some kind of life before I die. And if you're going to talk character, when my Dad passes I'll get some inheritance. And I'm taking Social Security at 62. All of that will go on the mortgage until paid off so that my wife will have a home without worries after I pass. No toys I'd like to have. No partying. Doesn't make me a saint or anything, just manning up to take care of her. You're a sleezeball, and your posts prove that on an almost daily basis. Go ahead and scoff, make snarky remarks. Just proves what you are.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Most drivers load their pickups.
True, rode with a guy for 5 weeks this last Peak. I've had routes with FedEx where after running all day in extreme heat, as in 102-107 with humidity, up to 125 without humidity, I completely stuffed multiple stepvans, some of them 28' long, drove one of them 60 miles, unloaded completely in that heat, went on lunch at 2000, home at 2200 or later after driving back. And I started the day unloading aircraft containers in many locations, often in harsh weather. I'm not saying I always worked harder than UPS drivers, but I've worked just as hard for many years and for much less pay. The DIDO know-it-all's don't know diddly. I was on my knees in the dirt picking weeds at a large plant nursery in the Florida sun when I was twelve. Did that after school, all day Saturday, all day Monday through Saturday in the summer for two years. Went home soaking wet and filthy every day. For a dollar an hour, eventually $1.50 because I was the last kid hanging in there when a bunch of others quit. The only reason I did was my Dad got custody of us. My mom had mental issues, we lived in two rooms of an unfinished house for 5 years, and I was sent to school without lunch money more times than not, and wearing high waters as I grew because she didn't have the money for new clothes. I know harsh, have seen it, have lived it. And yet I didn't expect anyone to pay my way. Be it ever so humble what I have is mine, I earned it, and don't think the government should spend everybody else's tax money to support anyone who is able bodied and can work their way to a better life.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Same reason I live here.
Turned down a promotion for a job in New Jersey (sorry Trip) to stay in Georgia.


Thanks for the reminder Captain Obvious! LOL
Georgia the country. It's great, totally different world and less than half the costs of the States. And I reserve the right to call a spade a spade!
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
No, I know you guys work hard. But not the same as picking crops in the field. Not in the same universe. As for me, I went ahead to Georgia because it's easier to save money here. I can live on less than half my pension, send my wife $700 which is going entirely on our car, and send my parents money. In May the car will be paid for, she'll then sell it to pay off her credit card and tie up loose ends, and come join me. When you make the kind of money you do it's easy to pay for this or that. Some of us have to sacrifice a little to get where we want to be. And I'll put the work I've done for FedEx up against what you've done any day. But I have heart disease and diabetes and am determined to have some kind of life before I die. And if you're going to talk character, when my Dad passes I'll get some inheritance. And I'm taking Social Security at 62. All of that will go on the mortgage until paid off so that my wife will have a home without worries after I pass. No toys I'd like to have. No partying. Doesn't make me a saint or anything, just manning up to take care of her. You're better than me, and your posts prove that on an almost daily basis. Go ahead and scoff, make snarky remarks. Just proves what you are.
True, rode with a guy for 5 weeks this last Peak. I've had routes with FedEx where after running all day in extreme heat, as in 102-107 with humidity, up to 125 without humidity, I completely stuffed multiple stepvans, some of them 28' long, drove one of them 60 miles, unloaded completely in that heat, went on lunch at 2000, home at 2200 or later after driving back. And I started the day unloading aircraft containers in many locations, often in harsh weather. I'm not saying I always worked harder than UPS drivers, but I've worked just as hard for many years and for much less pay. The DIDO know-it-all's don't know diddly. I was on my knees in the dirt picking weeds at a large plant nursery in the Florida sun when I was twelve. Did that after school, all day Saturday, all day Monday through Saturday in the summer for two years. Went home soaking wet and filthy every day. For a dollar an hour, eventually $1.50 because I was the last kid hanging in there when a bunch of others quit. The only reason I did was my Dad got custody of us. My mom had mental issues, we lived in two rooms of an unfinished house for 5 years, and I was sent to school without lunch money more times than not, and wearing high waters as I grew because she didn't have the money for new clothes. I know harsh, have seen it, have lived it. And yet I didn't expect anyone to pay my way. Be it ever so humble what I have is mine, I earned it, and don't think the government should spend everybody else's tax money to support anyone who is able bodied and can work their way to a better life.
Cool story bro
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
We aren't talking 2 companies, but thousands. Are you under the impression there's a relative handful of people keeping everything for themselves? Can they pay more?

I'm saying the produce industry is highly profitable. Yes farmers can pay more but it would mean less for them, the produce companies and everyone else. It's very similar to the healthcare industry where everyone has their hand in the cookie jar.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
So, I'm just out in the yard doing some yard work, and two Muslim females, sporting their hijabs and long dress, or skirt getup walk down the sidewalk. Wassup, this is America?
 
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