Immigration

newfie

Well-Known Member
Your lack of reading skills is not a problem of my presentation. You choose to focus on solutions that fail instead of the ones that have proven effective. Here’s a source from that liberal rag The Cato Institute.

Alternatives to Detention Are Cheaper than Universal Detention

your failures of reading is not a problem with my answer.

ankle bracelts have been used for a while and are being used even more and their results are included in the stats I provided.

you used on narrow study of 600 to try to make an overall argument of 99 percent to apply to hundreds of thousands.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
your failures of reading is not a problem with my answer.

ankle bracelts have been used for a while and are being used even more and their results are included in the stats I provided.

you used on narrow study of 600 to try to make an overall argument of 99 percent to apply to hundreds of thousands.
There is plenty of evidence that cheaper more effective solutions than child abuse exist to handle migrants. For some reason you Trumpites think it’s a good use of resources to divert attention away from criminals and toward mothers and children. I’d prefer the courts focus on the criminals and let the asylum seekers use the other methods we’ve proven to be effective.
 

newfie

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There is plenty of evidence that cheaper more effective solutions than child abuse exist to handle migrants. For some reason you Trumpites think it’s a good use of resources to divert attention away from criminals and toward mothers and children. I’d prefer the courts focus on the criminals and let the asylum seekers use the other methods we’ve proven to be effective.

there is a hope that cheaper means will work . It allows you libs to get us to chase another Trojan horse that will allow millions more into this country before our slow moving government realizes their mistakes and reacts.
 

vantexan

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There is plenty of evidence that cheaper more effective solutions than child abuse exist to handle migrants. For some reason you Trumpites think it’s a good use of resources to divert attention away from criminals and toward mothers and children. I’d prefer the courts focus on the criminals and let the asylum seekers use the other methods we’ve proven to be effective.
Glad to see you're onboard to get rid of sanctuary city status that's protecting the criminals, as well as building a wall to keep them out. And let's stop the asylum seeking dodge because the criminal element can use that too. You're right, let's focus on the criminals and everything we can do to keep them out. Now feign outrage.

Interesting segment on "60 Minutes" recently about human trafficking across the border. Showed one of the checkpoints that Border Patrol agents check cars and trucks at in Texas. Quite a few semi's come through loaded with illegal aliens. Guy who headed checkpoint said because of the shear amount of traffic they don't have time to go through every vehicle so if nothing is picked up on body heat seeking machine and driver's paperwork is in order they're waved through. Leslie Stahl asked how then did truck loaded with illegals just get through that resulted in a number of deaths in the hot trailer? Machine was not working that day he replied. Is it now? Um, no. So we're the richest nation on Earth, we're greatly concerned about illegal immigration, and don't have a working machine that easily picks up on infrared body heat, literally shows the shape of their bodies? The fix is in as far as I'm concerned. Both parties want them, they're still getting in, the ones crossing the desert on foot are easy pickings for showing deportation stats. When the Dems control Congress with the extra votes that millions of newly minted citizens give them, how will they create a job market with too many people vying for too few jobs because of automation? And you Republicans who want to depress wages with illegal labor, how once you get your automation in that eliminates all those jobs whose pay you suppressed, how will you be able to provide for all the millions out of work, including the tens of millions you imported? It's all about money and power now, with no thought to the future.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Glad to see you're onboard to get rid of sanctuary city status that's protecting the criminals, as well as building a wall to keep them out. And let's stop the asylum seeking dodge because the criminal element can use that too. You're right, let's focus on the criminals and everything we can do to keep them out. Now feign outrage.

Interesting segment on "60 Minutes" recently about human trafficking across the border. Showed one of the checkpoints that Border Patrol agents check cars and trucks at in Texas. Quite a few semi's come through loaded with illegal aliens. Guy who headed checkpoint said because of the shear amount of traffic they don't have time to go through every vehicle so if nothing is picked up on body heat seeking machine and driver's paperwork is in order they're waved through. Leslie Stahl asked how then did truck loaded with illegals just get through that resulted in a number of deaths in the hot trailer? Machine was not working that day he replied. Is it now? Um, no. So we're the richest nation on Earth, we're greatly concerned about illegal immigration, and don't have a working machine that easily picks up on infrared body heat, literally shows the shape of their bodies? The fix is in as far as I'm concerned. Both parties want them, they're still getting in, the ones crossing the desert on foot are easy pickings for showing deportation stats. When the Dems control Congress with the extra votes that millions of newly minted citizens give them, how will they create a job market with too many people vying for too few jobs because of automation? And you Republicans who want to depress wages with illegal labor, how once you get your automation in that eliminates all those jobs whose pay you suppressed, how will you be able to provide for all the millions out of work, including the tens of millions you imported? It's all about money and power now, with no thought to the future.
A wall is neither cheap or effective. It’s a campaign chant for rubes. Local policing is far more effective when cities have sanctuary policies in place. I prefer victims being able to come forward and testify without fear of deportation. I prefer immigrants being willing to cooperate with investigations in their communities. When someone whines about sanctuary policies I know they are clueless on what that actually means and how they actually make our cities safer.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
A wall is neither cheap or effective. It’s a campaign chant for rubes. Local policing is far more effective when cities have sanctuary policies in place. I prefer victims being able to come forward and testify without fear of deportation. I prefer immigrants being willing to cooperate with investigations in their communities. When someone whines about sanctuary policies I know they are clueless on what that actually means and how they actually make our cities safer.
Yes, let the honest politicians that are grand standing and breaking federal laws police the illegals. I’m sure they won’t let them into neighboring states :)
 

It will be fine

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Yes, let the honest politicians that are grand standing and breaking federal laws police the illegals. I’m sure they won’t let them into neighboring states :)
Wut? I think local police are in a better position to know where they should focus their resources and what policies will provide the most safety to their communities. I guess you think the federal government should make those calls.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Wut? I think local police are in a better position to know where they should focus their resources and what policies will provide the most safety to their communities. I guess you think the federal government should make those calls.
Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution: "To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;".
Over 11 million unauthorized immigrants per year, since 2000, on average. I call that an Invasion. What do YOU call it?
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Wut? I think local police are in a better position to know where they should focus their resources and what policies will provide the most safety to their communities. I guess you think the federal government should make those calls.

then get your own constitutional convention going to change that authority . you libs have been working the courts and media to try to finagle ways to force open borders. but their is a reckoning and accontability coming and the movement is called trump.

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BrownArmy

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Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution: "To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;".
Over 11 million unauthorized immigrants per year, since 2000, on average. I call that an Invasion. What do YOU call it?

I’d call it an abject failure of Congress to pass appropriate and contemporary immigration law.

I’m not even sure they want to, maybe a broken system is useful for both parties, albeit for different reasons.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I’d call it an abject failure of Congress to pass appropriate and contemporary immigration law.

I’m not even sure they want to, maybe a broken system is useful for both parties, albeit for different reasons.
It’s not useful for who is in power. Republicans beat obama with it now Dems will beat republicans with it.
 

newfie

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It’s not useful for who is in power. Republicans beat obama with it now Dems will beat republicans with it.

its a hail mary pass at best for the dems.

the dems have been so desperate for a counter argument on immigration that they have found theirselves defending MS13 and attacking a respected government agency keeping our borders safe.

the only thing that has been effective for a limited time was the children in the cages argument and they screwed that up by starting that attack with a picture from the Obama years.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
its a hail mary pass at best for the dems.

the dems have been so desperate for a counter argument on immigration that they have found theirselves defending MS13 and attacking a respected government agency keeping our borders safe.

the only thing that has been effective for a limited time was the children in the cages argument and they screwed that up by starting that attack with a picture from the Obama years.
It’s true, I think they have radicalized too much on immigration. Don’t think they are going to have mass appeal these midterms.

I do think that their socialist proposals will get the dumdums to crawl out of their crack dens and vote to take what others have earned though.
 

newfie

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It’s true, I think they have radicalized too much on immigration. Don’t think they are going to have mass appeal these midterms.

I do think that their socialist proposals will get the dumdums to crawl out of their crack dens and vote to take what others have earned though.

might , socialist seem to be splitting the message so far
 
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