Mutineer
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Maybe cuz the gates have been opened and buses sent to pick them up?I thought the wall was really Mexico stopping all the migrants at their southern border? How did they all get here so fast?
Maybe cuz the gates have been opened and buses sent to pick them up?I thought the wall was really Mexico stopping all the migrants at their southern border? How did they all get here so fast?
If it’s in the interest of maintaining the border integrity, then yes. Just add it to the $1.9 trillion pork bill.So you want Americans to pay for something he promised Mexico would pay for?
Fake news as per usual.Mexico wouldn't pay for it.
Yes it was when Drumpf said it.Fake news as per usual.
They did pay...So you want Americans to pay for something he promised Mexico would pay for?
You apparently haven't been watching. The Mexican president has pulled his troops and told Biden that he wasn't going to be told what to do. Meanwhile Biden made it clear he was going to seek a path to citizenship for the illegals here. And now instead of asylum seekers waiting in Mexico, if they show up with a kid they're given an asylum hearing date and released into the States with a bus ticket to wherever they want to go. And the border patrol is so busy they aren't guarding completed sections of the wall. Cartels have been destroying sections of it.I thought the wall was really Mexico stopping all the migrants at their southern border? How did they all get here so fast?
Americans more than pay for it one way or another with all the crime, incarcerations, and public assistance. Not to mention depressing wages.So you want Americans to pay for something he promised Mexico would pay for?
...and having a significant negative effect in areas experiencing a severe housing shortage.Americans more than pay for it one way or another with all the crime, incarcerations, and public assistance. Not to mention depressing wages.
Most farm owners out in California are republican....and having a significant negative effect in areas experiencing a severe housing shortage.
My step-sister (much younger than me) was a section 8 housing, working-poor mom. She got her act together, went to college, and got a $75k a year job. Now, she is struggling to find a place available to rent and had to move back home!
In this area of California when I was a young adult it was not a stretch to leave your parent's home, get a crappy entry level job, find a room-mate, rent a dumpy little shack somewhere, and start an independent adult life of incremental prosperity.
Over the past thirty years two major shifts have occurred: A flood of rich newcomers bought vast areas of farm, ranch, and dairy land. And planted wine grapes (lately it's been pot, also) and with them, attracted a very large horde of immigrant labor. Unlike the farm, ranch, and dairy owners that preceded them, these people DID NOT provide worker housing on their properties for the very large number of the working-poor people their industry attracted.
And so it's easy to understand the problem: Rich, white liberals and their pet protected entourage running amok.
After his public speech today, Biden walked away as the media was asking him about the border crisis.
Indeed. The irony.Most farm owners out in California are republican.
I think there's a lot more to it than just cheap labor. American culture just doesn't believe in working those type of jobs. If these farms were too exclusively higher legal workers they simply wouldn't have enough workers for the job. The people that come across the border no job is beneath them to better their lives.Indeed. The irony.
But the Tesla-driving, vineyard-winery-pot farm newcomers...probly not so much.
And unlike their republican predecessors, (I used to know many of these people and their families, all long gone) are NOT providing housing for their workers. And dumping them upon the local citizens to clog traffic and housing.
But automation is coming which will eliminate most of these jobs. What are you going to do with all the people who are coming across now? Pretty certain the crop picking jobs are already full up.I think there's a lot more to it than just cheap labor. American culture just doesn't believe in working those type of jobs. If these farms were too exclusively higher legal workers they simply wouldn't have enough workers for the job. The people that come across the border no job is beneath them to better their lives.
But automation is coming which will eliminate most of these jobs. What are you going to do with all the people who are coming across now? Pretty certain the crop picking jobs are already full up.
There is still a lot of crops that have to be picked by hand. It's sort of like delivery jobs. Yeah in the distant future they'll be self-driving trucks but it's going to be a while before that happens.But automation is coming which will eliminate most of these jobs. What are you going to do with all the people who are coming across now? Pretty certain the crop picking jobs are already full up.
But why do we need to let them keep streaming across the border? Pretty sure there are plenty already picking crops.There is still a lot of crops that have to be picked by hand. It's sort of like delivery jobs. Yeah in the distant future they'll be self-driving trucks but it's going to be a while before that happens.
They've already got self driving tractors plowing with GPS.There is still a lot of crops that have to be picked by hand. It's sort of like delivery jobs. Yeah in the distant future they'll be self-driving trucks but it's going to be a while before that happens.