Just had masks re- implemented. Any way to be rid of them?

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
I live in zone 2, Yamhill County. Tell me more about how covid is a hoax.
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Faceplanted

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Hospitals operate icu’s at 80-90% regularly to run profit.

so let’s do some math

most decently sized hospitals have about 10icu beds

so let’s say 9 are full today, one person who has tested for COVID, puts the hospital at icu capacity. 1 patient in a massive geographical area. 1 patient who is in there not just from a covid test, but most likely in general bad Heath.

ask me where I’m getting these numbers from. Somebody in my household contracts for multiple hospitals in the state, my best friends wife runs a cost savings programs for the largest hospital group in my region. The dashboard is an interesting story. The dashboard goes against what your being told.
 

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soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid

One of the most highly vaccinated nations (Israel) is getting swamped with covid. How?
The answer to your question is in the article.
Israel started mass vaccinations in March, the efficacy of which is now starting to wane just as the Delta variant is emerging.
But more importantly, from the article….

“3. If you get infected, being vaccinated helps.​

The good news is that among Israel's serious infections on Thursday of this week, according to Health Ministry data, the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people over age 60 (178.7 per 100,000) was nine times more than the rate among fully vaccinated people of the same age category, and the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people in the under-60 crowd (3.2 per 100,000) was a little more than double the rate among vaccinated people in that age bracket.”

Thank you for proving my point. Vaccines save lives.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
Hospitals operate icu’s at 80-90% regularly to run profit.

so let’s do some math

most decently sized hospitals have about 10icu beds

so let’s say 9 are full today, one person who has tested for COVID, puts the hospital at icu capacity. 1 patient in a massive geographical area. 1 patient who is in there not just from a covid test, but most likely in general bad Heath.

ask me where I’m getting these numbers from. Somebody in my household contracts for multiple hospitals in the state, my best friends wife runs a cost savings programs for the largest hospital group in my region. The dashboard is an interesting story. The dashboard goes against what your being told.
Look at the numbers I posted.
The hospitals in my area are being overrun with covid cases.
Almost all hospitalized Covid cases are unvaccinated.
Almost all Covid cases in ICU are unvaccinated.
And almost all the Covid cases on ventilators are unvaccinated.
And my state has one of the lowest Covid death rates in the country. Its a lot worse in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas.
 

Faceplanted

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The answer to your question is in the article.
Israel started mass vaccinations in March, the efficacy of which is now starting to wane just as the Delta variant is emerging.
But more importantly, from the article….

“3. If you get infected, being vaccinated helps.​

The good news is that among Israel's serious infections on Thursday of this week, according to Health Ministry data, the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people over age 60 (178.7 per 100,000) was nine times more than the rate among fully vaccinated people of the same age category, and the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people in the under-60 crowd (3.2 per 100,000) was a little more than double the rate among vaccinated people in that age bracket.”

Thank you for proving my point. Vaccines save lives.
Israel hospitals are “full”

more patients than the first big wave, how is the vax helping? If the symptoms are not as bad, why are they in the hospital?

they are either lying about how full the hospitals are or lying about the vax resulting in symptoms less severe

a or b, it can’t be both

Look at the numbers I posted.
The hospitals in my area are being overrun with covid cases.
Almost all hospitalized Covid cases are unvaccinated.
Almost all Covid cases in ICU are unvaccinated.
And almost all the Covid cases on ventilators are unvaccinated.
And my state has one of the lowest Covid death rates in the country. Its a lot worse in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas.
Your hospitals are overrun, I’m explaining where exactly those numbers come from. Your not listening. Fat unhealthy people are on ventilators.

like I said, your reading media reports, my wife is working with the hospitals, and I have acccess to the dashboard for the biggest hospital group in my area

Also, where are these covid positive numbers coming from? The pcr test that the fda took away approval from?
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid

As of Tuesday, Aug. 17, St. Charles had 61 total COVID-19 patients, the most ever. Because those patients require critical care, patients who are only slightly less sick — people who need surgery for cancer, heart conditions or other needs — must be put on hold. Since most of those surgeries would require an overnight stay to recover, they have slowed considerably. Dr. Merrill said in normal times the hospital would perform as many as 30 elective surgeries a day where the patient stays overnight to recover. Now, because so few beds are available, surgeons do just five elective in patient surgeries a day.
“We are completely packed. We have not been able to provide surgical care to patients for many months,” Dr. Merrill said.”

 

Faceplanted

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As of Tuesday, Aug. 17, St. Charles had 61 total COVID-19 patients, the most ever. Because those patients require critical care, patients who are only slightly less sick — people who need surgery for cancer, heart conditions or other needs — must be put on hold. Since most of those surgeries would require an overnight stay to recover, they have slowed considerably. Dr. Merrill said in normal times the hospital would perform as many as 30 elective surgeries a day where the patient stays overnight to recover. Now, because so few beds are available, surgeons do just five elective in patient surgeries a day.
“We are completely packed. We have not been able to provide surgical care to patients for many months,” Dr. Merrill said.”

Are you even listening to what I’m saying?

first off what covid test is being used? Pcr tests who the inventor mr mullis said should not be used for virus detection. The same ones the fda said are no longer valid because they can’t differentiate between the flu and Covid?

icus run at 80-90% capacity always to run profit. It only takes 1 Covid patent to put most hospitals at icu bed capacity. So the news says “ICU’s OVERUN”. They are not lying, but people who don’t grasp how hospitals run don’t understand what they are saying

the feds sent Florida ventilators, the media was sure to tell this story…. But Desantis said he wasn’t even aware, and said he was in contact with all hospital ceos/boards and none asked for extra ventilators.



first of all, parents get tested for COVID when they get to the hospital. Broken arm and need it to be set via surgery? Covid test. That counts as a covid hospitalization even if no symptoms and even if for something unrelated

my wife literally works in the Operating room doing elective surgery’s. She had to report to an emergency surgery last week where a patient was Covid positive, yet was on the brink of death due to a unsuccessful hip surgery and infection. She most likely ended up in the icu and died after the surgery.

=Covid hospitalization and most likely Covid icu statistic snd most likely Covid death….. all stemming from an elderly lady who fell, had a massive fracture, a first surgery that didn’t go well and an infection after.

My state shut them down because the cdc and feds are forcing them to take extreme precautions, segregating parents ect. Hospitals are not going to go against that be than liable if a fat diabetic dies.

medical workers know how overblown this whole thing is. I live in a red state where the media says everybody is dying, yet they are shipping out nurses to other states. There are not enough patients due to the stoppage of elective’s.

this article is from “ground zero”, hospitals are still able to handle the patent load

 

Netsua 3:16

AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE

As of Tuesday, Aug. 17, St. Charles had 61 total COVID-19 patients, the most ever. Because those patients require critical care, patients who are only slightly less sick — people who need surgery for cancer, heart conditions or other needs — must be put on hold. Since most of those surgeries would require an overnight stay to recover, they have slowed considerably. Dr. Merrill said in normal times the hospital would perform as many as 30 elective surgeries a day where the patient stays overnight to recover. Now, because so few beds are available, surgeons do just five elective in patient surgeries a day.
“We are completely packed. We have not been able to provide surgical care to patients for many months,” Dr. Merrill said.”

Any empathy for the REAL front line workers like my nurse girlfriend? Who’s back to one day off per week on call 24/7?
Hell no there’s not!
None! Nobody freaking cares about those actually sick with this crap and the healthcare workers working their asses off just to save your stubborn, unvaxed life
We should be ashamed. I know I am
 

Faceplanted

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Any empathy for the REAL front line workers like my nurse girlfriend? Who’s back to one day off per week on call 24/7?
Hell no there’s not!
None! Nobody freaking cares about those actually sick with this crap and the healthcare workers working their asses off just to save your stubborn, unvaxed life
We should be ashamed. I know I am
Interesting, Florida is sending nurses all over the USA, a good friend is in Philly right now.

why is your girlfriend working so much? Staffing issues due to covid positive tests from employees with 0 symptoms? How is your girlfriend on call? Does she not work shift work? Nurses work 12 hours, or are on call.

are you saying she works her 3 or 4 12 hour shifts in a week, and can be called in anytime when not scheduled. Is she being paid for her on call hours?

sorry but your girlfriend, my wife, and any doctor know what they are signing up for. They don’t deserve a pitty party for doing their job.
 

Netsua 3:16

AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
Interesting, Florida is sending nurses all over the USA, a good friend is in Philly right now.

why is your girlfriend working so much? Staffing issues due to covid positive tests from employees with 0 symptoms?
People dying all over the country.
People not seeing their families trying to fix up the very individuals who INTENTIONALLY put themselves at risk; without one shred of consideration for the consequences of your actions
It’s all about your rights. My rights! My rights!
Meanwhile, people everywhere are sick and dying.
Psychopaths.
 

Netsua 3:16

AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
Interesting, Florida is sending nurses all over the USA, a good friend is in Philly right now.

why is your girlfriend working so much? Staffing issues due to covid positive tests from employees with 0 symptoms? How is your girlfriend on call? Does she not work shift work? Nurses work 12 hours, or are on call.

are you saying she works her 3 or 4 12 hour shifts in a week, and can be called in anytime when not scheduled. Is she being paid for her on call hours?

sorry but your girlfriend, my wife, and any doctor know what they are signing up for. They don’t deserve a pitty party for doing their job.
Wait wait wait, you seriously JUST POSTED this?
Then you claim that Florida is doing “great” with covid? 😂
This is the kind of human being we’re dealing with here
 
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