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El Correcto said:
I just don’t get why we need to add another difficult hoop to answer, proving the existence of a deity, to questions we already don’t know the answers to.
It makes absolutely no sense.

Atheism is applying science to these mythical stories and creationists myths and basically saying these question remain unanswered, we have no evidence.
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We don’t have to prove existence of a deity. He walked the earth. Real, physical, evidence. Not only of his existence, but testimony to the miracles he performed. An actual written library of evidence. You have none! You cannot prove evolution either. There is absolutely no proof that anything evolves into another species, none! They may add pieces adapting to their environment but they are still the same species.
 
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El Correcto said:
The answer is I don’t know.
Now prove to me that you know with evidence.
Oh wait you can’t. You just say Jesus Jesus god god god god, no evidence, no proof, no real observations, just your opinion.
Your opinion should be you don’t know either, but you choose to have faith that it was god, imo.

If your really curious about these debates and enjoy the conversation, there are many atheists and theologians well better equipped than us to further it. You should go watch them debate it with an open mind. Who has more REAL world observable answers that aren’t just look at what this Bible says?
I don’t see how any rational human being still comes down on the side of religion these days, there is just too much going against it.

Seriously spend a week listening to the atheists, to the scientists, shut religion out for 1 week. See if it doesn’t at the very least more you toward a more agnostic view of your own beliefs and open your mind a bit.
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I watch those debates a lot. My favorite is John Lenox and Richard dawkins. If you get a chance you should watch it. They are long, but they fascinate me. I know christianity is a challenge in todays environment. To me it just gives the most logical conclusion. Especially lately with all the wrong being called right, and right being called wrong, and how people respond to you when you treat them the way Jesus tells you to in the Bible.
 
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El Correcto said:
The answer is I don’t know.
Now prove to me that you know with evidence.
Oh wait you can’t. You just say Jesus Jesus god god god god, no evidence, no proof, no real observations, just your opinion.
Your opinion should be you don’t know either, but you choose to have faith that it was god, imo.

If your really curious about these debates and enjoy the conversation, there are many atheists and theologians well better equipped than us to further it. You should go watch them debate it with ian open mind. Who has more REAL world observable answers that aren’t just look at what this Bible says?
I don’t see how any rational human being still comes down on the side of religion these days, there is just too much going against it.

Seriously spend a week listening to the atheists, to the scientists, shut religion out for 1 week. See if it doesn’t at the very least more you toward a more agnostic view of your own beliefs and open your mind a bit.
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I have listened to probably all of them, hitchens, Dawkins, that sam guy, Krause. I went into Christianity with an open mind and came to the conclusion I did. And also the universes complexity helped shape my view as well. A lot of the stories in the Bible are also a story within the story. They simply weren’t made up by uneducated peasants, yet that’s exactly who wrote them.
 
El Correcto

El Correcto

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Non liberal said:
We don’t have to prove existence of a deity. He walked the earth. Real, physical, evidence. Not only of his existence, but testimony to the miracles he performed. An actual written library of evidence. You have none! You cannot prove evolution either. There is absolutely no proof that anything evolves into another species, none! They may add pieces adapting to their environment but they are still the same species.
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Evidence of Evolution – Concepts of Biology

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Theistic evolution - Wikipedia this is what Christians are moving towards in the west, they’ll get there eventually, one step closer to living without delusions.
Please present any observable evidence that anyone could observe, not just one off accounts or stuff in the Bible, you can’t.
There is plenty of evidence for evolution, you just don’t want to acknowledge.
 
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El Correcto said:

Evidence of Evolution – Concepts of Biology

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Theistic evolution - Wikipedia this is what Christians are moving towards in the west, they’ll get there eventually, one step closer to living without delusions.
Please present any observable evidence that anyone could observe, not just one off accounts or stuff in the Bible, you can’t.
There is plenty of evidence for evolution, you just don’t want to acknowledge.
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I don’t see that as evidence I’m sorry. All that tells me is maybe horses were small looking dogs alot of years ago. But they are still horses. That is a far cry from one species turning into another. Like a rabbit turning into a bird or something. If there are people who say they are Christian and take that as evidence then they are just wrong, im sorry.
 
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Non liberal said:
I have listened to probably all of them, hitchens, Dawkins, that sam guy, Krause. I went into Christianity with an open mind and came to the conclusion I did. And also the universes complexity helped shape my view as well. A lot of the stories in the Bible are also a story within the story. They simply weren’t made up by uneducated peasants, yet that’s exactly who wrote them.
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The Bible contains a unique authorship. Most holy books are the product of one man. One fellow decides we need a new religion or we need to reform a current religion or claims he has received some kind of vision from God. Then he decides to codify that and write that down. Bang, you've got the Book of Mormon.You have the Koran. You have got a lot of these sacred so-called texts.
But the Bible isn’t like that at all. It’s not the work of one person or even the work of a group of people in one period of time… The Bible is 66 books, written over a period of 1,500 years by more than 40 different human authors Those authors come from a wide variety of backgrounds..
Joshua was written by a general. Daniel written by a prime minister. David was a king. Peter was a fisherman.Nehemiah was the cup bearer to a king .Every kind of educational level, every kind of economic background is represented in the writing of the Bible.
Also Bible writers all lived in different places, all over everywhere. Moses is writing in the wilderness, Paul is writing in prison. Ezekiel is writing as a captive, a slave in Babylon. John is writing on an island in exile off the coast of what is now known as Turkey. All of that is to say, the Bible was written on three different continents, Africa, Asia and Europe. It was written in three different languages, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
The Bible deals with all kinds of controversial subjects, ..like marriage,.. roles in marriage.., raising kids,.. what to do at work.., how to behave in sexuality and everything else.
But, what’s amazing about all of that is the Bible is a harmonious unit. What it says on its first page doesn’t contradict what it is said on its last page. That doesn’t mean there aren’t different convents and different laws.The law of Moses is very different than the law of Christ.
But the harmony is around God.. and who God is.. and how to approach God…
How is that possible? All those different authors over 1,500 years writing on the same theme…. writing in the same direction… Writing in harmony with each other.. That’s incredible.
How can you have a book written over 1,500 years,by 40 different people,all kinds of different backgrounds, all kinds of different places,all kinds of different ideas, and yet,all pointing in the same direction?
Divine revelation. The Holy Spirit of God directly inspired these authors what to write.
 
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BrownFlush said:
The Bible contains a unique authorship. Most holy books are the product of one man. One fellow decides we need a new religion or we need to reform a current religion or claims he has received some kind of vision from God. Then he decides to codify that and write that down. Bang, you've got the Book of Mormon.You have the Koran. You have got a lot of these sacred so-called texts.
But the Bible isn’t like that at all. It’s not the work of one person or even the work of a group of people in one period of time… The Bible is 66 books, written over a period of 1,500 years by more than 40 different human authors Those authors come from a wide variety of backgrounds..
Joshua was written by a general. Daniel written by a prime minister. David was a king. Peter was a fisherman.Nehemiah was the cup bearer to a king .Every kind of educational level, every kind of economic background is represented in the writing of the Bible.
Also Bible writers all lived in different places, all over everywhere. Moses is writing in the wilderness, Paul is writing in prison. Ezekiel is writing as a captive, a slave in Babylon. John is writing on an island in exile off the coast of what is now known as Turkey. All of that is to say, the Bible was written on three different continents, Africa, Asia and Europe. It was written in three different languages, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
The Bible deals with all kinds of controversial subjects, ..like marriage,.. roles in marriage.., raising kids,.. what to do at work.., how to behave in sexuality and everything else.
But, what’s amazing about all of that is the Bible is a harmonious unit. What it says on its first page doesn’t contradict what it is said on its last page. That doesn’t mean there aren’t different convents and different laws.The law of Moses is very different than the law of Christ.
But the harmony is around God.. and who God is.. and how to approach God…
How is that possible? All those different authors over 1,500 years writing on the same theme…. writing in the same direction… Writing in harmony with each other.. That’s incredible.
How can you have a book written over 1,500 years,by 40 different people,all kinds of different backgrounds, all kinds of different places,all kinds of different ideas, and yet,all pointing in the same direction?
Divine revelation. The Holy Spirit of God directly inspired these authors what to write.
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Absolutely incredible!
 
El Correcto

El Correcto

god is dead
BrownFlush said:
The Bible contains a unique authorship. Most holy books are the product of one man. One fellow decides we need a new religion or we need to reform a current religion or claims he has received some kind of vision from God. Then he decides to codify that and write that down. Bang, you've got the Book of Mormon.You have the Koran. You have got a lot of these sacred so-called texts.
But the Bible isn’t like that at all. It’s not the work of one person or even the work of a group of people in one period of time… The Bible is 66 books, written over a period of 1,500 years by more than 40 different human authors Those authors come from a wide variety of backgrounds..
Joshua was written by a general. Daniel written by a prime minister. David was a king. Peter was a fisherman.Nehemiah was the cup bearer to a king .Every kind of educational level, every kind of economic background is represented in the writing of the Bible.
Also Bible writers all lived in different places, all over everywhere. Moses is writing in the wilderness, Paul is writing in prison. Ezekiel is writing as a captive, a slave in Babylon. John is writing on an island in exile off the coast of what is now known as Turkey. All of that is to say, the Bible was written on three different continents, Africa, Asia and Europe. It was written in three different languages, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
The Bible deals with all kinds of controversial subjects, ..like marriage,.. roles in marriage.., raising kids,.. what to do at work.., how to behave in sexuality and everything else.
But, what’s amazing about all of that is the Bible is a harmonious unit. What it says on its first page doesn’t contradict what it is said on its last page. That doesn’t mean there aren’t different convents and different laws.The law of Moses is very different than the law of Christ.
But the harmony is around God.. and who God is.. and how to approach God…
How is that possible? All those different authors over 1,500 years writing on the same theme…. writing in the same direction… Writing in harmony with each other.. That’s incredible.
How can you have a book written over 1,500 years,by 40 different people,all kinds of different backgrounds, all kinds of different places,all kinds of different ideas, and yet,all pointing in the same direction?
Divine revelation. The Holy Spirit of God directly inspired these authors what to write.
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Let’s open your Bible to chapter one.
Oops they got it wrong, better start over Tommy.
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BrownFlush

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El Correcto said:
There is nothing mature about believing in ancient myths. Grow up and be an adult.
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So it is you that can't have honest discussion. Got it.
Speaking of growing up and being an adult, you hoping Cheryl and Tony are in heaven with god's love? Are you are liar or a hypocrite? Maybe when you posted that, you weren't in full flame up, leftist, homo mode. It's hard to tell.
 
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