Local 804 Drivers Walked Out

bleedinbrown58

That’s Craptacular
Fire 'em all for job abandonment.


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Island

Well-Known Member
A point you guys are missing, regarding why the stewards didn't debate the matter with Liam and stop him.
He had already pulled the stewards out of the building. They weren't there to agree or disagree.

I'm eager to hear about the result of their national panel. I suppose later this week or next week we will find out what the arbitration is? Then you 804s can tell us what the result is of all this.
 

upschuck

Well-Known Member
Are the 100+ drivers that walked out working(working termination) or are they sitting at home? If at home, how do they have the drivers in reserve to cover the routes? Bringing in management from other areas? Either way, if management has not put up x number of bids, then they will be back. It takes a while to train that many drivers.
 

Island

Well-Known Member
I agree, I can't see the company firing all of them, even if Liam hadn't taken all the blame himself. If you're going to fire that many drivers you may as well shut down the building
 

oldngray

nowhere special
UPS will sue the pants off the local and maybe make an example of a couple of people. And use some excuse other than strike to fire them.
 

rod

Retired 23 years
I really don't think UPS having to train a couple of hundred drivers would be that big of deal anymore. Apparently UPS doesn't really care about "service" anymore. They have no problem making their drivers lie about "emergency conditions" or other made up service problems just to justify their numbers so why couldn't they cover up this mess with a bunch of new low paid part timers looking to go full time. A week or two of a truck load of other management being brought into help train (?) and it would be business as normal. Sure there would be a back log but as proved by the Christmas Dallas mess but that would eventually get ironed out. As terrible as this sounds I do believe it is possible. I wish all these guys luck-----I think they are going to need it. I hope I'm wrong.
 
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Stratocaster

Well-Known Member
Are the 100+ drivers that walked out working(working termination) or are they sitting at home? If at home, how do they have the drivers in reserve to cover the routes? Bringing in management from other areas? Either way, if management has not put up x number of bids, then they will be back. It takes a while to train that many drivers.

No terminations or working terminations. All drivers are on the road.
 

upschuck

Well-Known Member
No terminations or working terminations. All drivers are on the road.
Good to hear.

I find this odd. They fire a guy over something that most drivers found trivial enough to walk out over, yet they don't try and fire the drivers that walked out on their jobs. Was there any discipline handed out at all?
 

Stratocaster

Well-Known Member
Good to hear.

I find this odd. They fire a guy over something that most drivers found trivial enough to walk out over, yet they don't try and fire the drivers that walked out on their jobs. Was there any discipline handed out at all?

The National Docket has side tracked things.
 

member6045

Well-Known Member
The IBT needs to stop playing politics and step in before this local is left with nothing! Let's not forget there are others involved that have nothing to do with walkout.
 

Johney

Pineapple King
I really have a hard time believing UPS will just let this go.
I have a hard time believing that also. Doesn't the company have so many days to issue discipline? Then if that passes they are in the clear? Of course subject to targets on their backs later.
 
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