not what i voted for
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I heard he was also used as a punching bag in 43st one night.
Local 804 Drivers Walked Out
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I heard he was also used as a punching bag in 43st one night.
804 member
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Yeah but that wasn't why he was supposed to be in the building. It was just an added bonus. Just kidding.
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realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
New member, very suspicious.
Old member, very suspicious.
JadedBull
Member
Wether he is called a Union Rep or an appointed B.A. What's the difference? I always see that guy in our building when I come in early or punch out late. The only other B.A. I've seen in Maspeth do that in my 2 decades was Liam. I think Chris and Liam fight hard and represent hard. That's why Maspeth became a thorn in The Company's go along get along plan!
JadedBull
Member
I heard that too. But if he hit a member back we would probably be all over him. I thought it was tougher to take it and move on like it didn't bother him. He probably could have had the member fired or thrown out of the Union but he took a higher road. Besides, the wY I heard it, the member was walking behind him and got him from behind. Even with something that low, Chris didn't take the guys job. The member should be grateful.
JadedBull
Member
Thanks for the lookout but our building has been short drivers for the past year. On car supes have been spreading that UPS is looking to hire new replacements to spread the fear mongering. My Steward told me that the BA was informed in January that our building was looking to put on 40 more drivers back then. Mostly because corporate finally got tired of paying out the supes working grievances and finally approved more drivers.
HEVdriver
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Okay, just trying to keep you all informed. They are adding 50 drivers to our building too
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Indecisi0n
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Hiring is going on across the board. UPS is has also changed their "Stops Per Car" numbers in the North East. This in an effort to accommodate the big boys such as amazon. Factoring this plus the addition of more Sure Post packages being delivered by us as opposed to the Post Office.
~A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.~
I hope I am wrong, but it just looks like the board knows they are in the wrong. Why are they getting politicians and petition involve in to this? I say if any drivers get fired and they cannot get the drivers' jobs back or our local ends up getting fined - then there needs to be changes in the board, as much as I respect Liam.
yourself. Thought that the group would like to know. Take it how you want
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pickup
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Here's the way I see it. If UPS is going to get rid of these 250 drivers, now is the beginning of the window to do it .Most of the US isn't going to be seeing snow for the first time in a long time. There won't be days when the package cars are called back in because of the snow leaving two days work for the next day. There won't be any container rail trailers stuck somewhere on property in chicago or nebraska due to snow, so there so be no interruptions to the flow of work (again 2 days work into one).
Cover drivers become full time drivers. Saturday air drivers stay drivers for the rest of their work weeks. On road sups come from all different areas to train guys. They also can fill in as drivers when none are to be found. Drivers from the other close centers such as foster ave can fill in.
I am not saying this would be easy, but if UPS is looking to replace these drivers, NOW begins the company's best window of opportunity.
The company has a lot to gain by this, top paid drivers replaced by 4 year progression drivers starting at 18.75 an hour. A lesson taught to a local 804 and a lesson learned by locals all across the country.
Cover drivers become full time drivers. Saturday air drivers stay drivers for the rest of their work weeks. On road sups come from all different areas to train guys. They also can fill in as drivers when none are to be found. Drivers from the other close centers such as foster ave can fill in.
I am not saying this would be easy, but if UPS is looking to replace these drivers, NOW begins the company's best window of opportunity.
The company has a lot to gain by this, top paid drivers replaced by 4 year progression drivers starting at 18.75 an hour. A lesson taught to a local 804 and a lesson learned by locals all across the country.
island1fox
Well-Known Member
The gain that ups gets for replacing 250 high paid experienced drivers is very small --with the costs associated with Trainers and training.
The real point --if the Company does nothing --it is left open for this type of action every other day ---they will never live with that !
The real point --if the Company does nothing --it is left open for this type of action every other day ---they will never live with that !
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I agree w/Island in that the financial gains are minimal but to do nothing would be the worst thing they could do.
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EastCoastIntegrity
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HEVDriver isn't lying. I know of on car sups going to Queens to help out. They are coming from NJ.
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pickup
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I'll address the first paragraph, let's see for math purposes, I will make it 10 dollars an hour saved on each driver replaced in terms of wages. So, 10 x 40 =400 . 400 dollars a week x 50 = 20,000. 20,000 x 250 = $5 million saved in wages for the first year( very conservative amount, not considering over time_. The only extra expense is hotels and and meal allowances for the driver sups brought in from far away. They were already collecting a salary anyway, posting idling reports on billboards. So from a money perspective, it's a winner.
