Local 804 Drivers Walked Out

[island1fox]

I'll address the first paragraph, let's see for math purposes, I will make it 10 dollars an hour saved on each driver replaced in terms of wages. So, 10 x 40 =400 . 400 dollars a week x 50 = 20,000. 20,000 x 250 = $5 million saved in wages for the first year( very conservative amount, not considering over time_. The only extra expense is hotels and and meal allowances for the driver sups brought in from far away. They were already collecting a salary anyway, posting idling reports on billboards. So from a money perspective, it's a winner.[/qu

That's not what you're hearing on this thread and that is not my interpretation! Everything would be a whole lot better if this never happened! That being said, it did happen! And Local 804 has been ready and willing to address this with UPS since the day it happened! It would appear that the next step is arbitration and Local 804 has strong protective language in the Supplement AND a previous arbitration decision that confirms that the Maspeth 250 and their Business Agent acted appropriately in standing up to a violation of the contract by UPS! It's never "no sweat - everything is great!!" when 250 drivers are placed on working terminations, but once UPS makes their decision on termination, it will be the last decision that UPS gets to make in this case! The next decisions will be made by arbitrators who have a bit more respect for the contract and the law!

Brown spider,

Lets see --you are not saying everything is great. After dismissal UPS has no more choices but Arbitration --open your eyes --The same can be said of the Union ----they have no decision at all --a lowly Business Agent already made it --Liam is not facing Arbitration --Correct ??

The correct action that day --was for Local 804 to file an expedited grievance on Procedure and the one dismissal ------not multiply the problem by 250 !!

You are saying that 250 Drivers and their Families are at the Mercy of what an Arbitrator will decide because of an Idiotic action by a Business Agent.

Of course UPS will just run to Arbitration even though their multi million dollar Attorneys have told them the Melville decision means they will automatically lose ??? I do not think so --and would not want to be one of the 250 !!

 

[stink219]

407 and stink go from forum to forum trying to discourage members from standing up. Its obvious they are management or they have their noses so far up hoffa/halls they can smell their breath

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Realbrown has a new screen name!!


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[realbrown1]

Realbrown has a new screen name!!

You keep thinking that.

Let let me know how that works out for you.

 

[stink219]

It only took you 13 minutes to respond? Hmmm. Somebody got made!!!


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[teamster 804]

Where is the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.I am missing something here does this local belong to the International or not.Does anyone have any info regarding them with this matter.

 

[realbrown1]

It only took you 13 minutes to respond? Hmmm. Somebody got made!!!

Didn't you accuse me of being Hoffa sux about a month ago?

I don't need to be anybody but me to beat your stupid arguments.

 

[stink219]

Being that all you need is a free email, who knows with you?


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[Had enough]

Well,Well, Well, have you had Enough? This is what we voted in again! Ugh! What does it take take for all of you to see what Jerk offs they are?

 

[realbrown1]

Where is the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.I am missing something here does this local belong to the International or not.Does anyone have any info regarding them with this matter.

The IBT is sitting this one out.

 

[member6045]

Where is the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.I am missing something here does this local belong to the International or not.Does anyone have any info regarding them with this matter.

The Ibt has told local 804 that this was not a sanction strike! You better fix this on your own! Because your not gonna like what we will do!!


Will reformers be a group to give up our right to strike in 804.

 

[stink219]

Seems like local 804 needs reform now more than ever.


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[realbrown1]

Being that all you need is a free email, who knows with you?

Is that how you been doing it? Stonefish??

 

[Elvis657]

It seems to me that Local 804 is a very strong local.... I wish all of the locals could swing a hammer like they do, IBT be damned!!

 

[realbrown1]

The Ibt has told local 804 that this was not a sanction strike! You better fix this on your own! Because your not gonna like what we will do!!


Will reformers be a group to give up our right to strike in 804.

Wow the Teamster leadership is siding with UPS over other Teamsters.

Never thought I'd see the day.

 

[member6045]

Wow the Teamster leadership is siding with UPS over other Teamsters.

Never thought I'd see the day.

That's one way of looking at it! Or the other is take responsibility for your error!


Will reformers be a group to give up our right to strike in 804.

 

[NoRespect]

UPS is winning on the dividing race. None would ever want to listen to a B.A ever again because of whats going on. Drivers right now are working like they are trying to make book, thinking it will save their job but what they don't understand is that EVERYONE who was part of the walk out will be let go. Us doing our working termination is giving management time to train our replacements. From what i heard from an insider is that management treating our lives like a ing carnival game. Randomly picking the first 20 names and celebrating. So its just time folks we will all get walked out. We should have all taken our working termination to an end yesterday when they walked out 20 of our bothers and sister. We are being divided right now.

 

[bigd]

Where is the international? Really?!How about where is TDU! They have all the answers!

 

[Had enough]

Hey Tim! Keep your mouth shut! We are in deep enough! Where is Job Security? Instead the Local gets us friend'in fired!

 

[bigd]

That news article is nothing than publicity for the company to get more applicants.

Let me summarize this;

Liam gets 250 members fired! Great job right "brown spider, realbrown"?then Sylvester gets a news paper to write an article publicizing openings at $32 an hour! Again great jobs boys!..

The word is that the first class had thousands of applicants!

 

[rod]

Anyone looking for sympathy from John Q. Public or politicians is wasting their time. ALL the public and politicians see is the "great pay - great benefits" side of the story. I'm not saying its right--just telling it like it is. If the International has turned this mess totally over to the Local I feel for those guys. They really have their work cut out for them trying to save their jobs.