Marking another fatality....

[Integrity]

Wild West or not each driver is responsible for his or her actions. I will be surprised if the driver still has a job after this.

Employers are responsible for the safety of the workplace.

 

[UnionStrong]

Employers are responsible for the safety of the workplace.

Everyone is.

 

[Integrity]

IMHO
Bullies have no integrity.

 

[Integrity]

Everyone is.

No employers are.

 

[UnionStrong]

No employers are.

Both are. Rules are in place, you follow them. Simple.

 

[Integrity]

Both are. Rules are in place, you follow them. Simple.

The employer is responsible to see that this happens therefore this makes the employer the responsible party.

It is that simple. ( In theory.)

 

[UnionStrong]

The employer is responsible to see that this happens therefore this makes the employer the responsible party.

It is that simple. ( In theory.)

Semantics

 

[Integrity]

Semantics

No.

It is the law.

IMO It is only semantics to those who are too afraid to hold UPS management accountable to this law.

Which IMHO, accounts for most of those who I have seen post on the BC and most UPS employees I have come in contact with during my experience as a UPS employee.

Employer Responsibilities | Occupational Safety and Health Administration

 

[BrownFlush]

IMHO
Bullies have no integrity.

IMHO
You don't know the definition of integrity.

 

[Integrity]

IMHO
You don't know the definition of integrity.

?

 

[UnionStrong]

No.

It is the law.

IMO It is only semantics to those who are too afraid to hold UPS management accountable to this law.

Which IMHO, accounts for most of those who I have seen post on the BC and most UPS employees I have come in contact with during my experience as a UPS employee.

Employer Responsibilities | Occupational Safety and Health Administration

Splitting hairs.

 

[BrownFlush]

?

Of course you don't know.

 

[Integrity]

Splitting hairs.

With this attitude, it seems reasonable to me that you would never seek to hold UPS accountable by filing an OSHA violation.

You more than likely believe it is the employees who are responsible for the corrupt safety culture that exists at UPS.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[UnionStrong]

With this attitude, it seems reasonable to me that you would never seek to hold UPS accountable by filing an OSHA violation.

You more than likely believe it is the employees who are responsible for the corrupt safety culture that exists at UPS.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

How do you even jump to such a ridiculous conclusion? Of course you would report an unsafe condition, that’s why it’s everyone’s responsibility. Like I said.

 

[Integrity]

How do you even jump to such a ridiculous conclusion?

What conclusion?
OSHA’s position on Employer responsibility.

Of course you would report an unsafe condition, that’s why it’s everyone’s responsibility. Like I said.

Reporting it or even being responsible to report safety violations doesn’t abdicate the employer from the responsibility to ensure a safe work place. Sorry.

 

[UnionStrong]

What conclusion?
OSHA’s position on Employer responsibility.

Reporting it or even being responsible to report safety violations doesn’t abdicate the employer from the responsibility to ensure a safe work place. Sorry.

Never said it did. I said, and I don’t know why you’re having such a hard time with it, work safety is everyone’s job. The employer is responsible to provide a safe work place. The employee is responsible to report an unsafe condition. If the employee sees it and doesn’t report it, and it’s proven he saw it, and it causes an injury, is he responsible? Can he be disciplined?
Stop being obtuse. It’s not letting the company off. Geezus! Time for a nice cold beer. My fingers hurt, it’s so cold.

 

[Integrity]

Never said it did. I said, and I don’t know why you’re having such a hard time with it, work safety is everyone’s job. The employer is responsible to provide a safe work place. The employee is responsible to report an unsafe condition. If the employee sees it and doesn’t report it, and it’s proven he saw it, and it causes an injury, is he responsible? Can he be disciplined?
Stop being obtuse. It’s not letting the company off. Geezus! Time for a nice cold beer. My fingers hurt, it’s so cold.

Nice post. I see that you agree that the employer is responsible to provide a safe work place.

 

[UnionStrong]

Nice post. I see that you agree that the employer is responsible to provide a safe work place.

Of course I do! But would you walk around a big oil spill in the building like nothing was there? No, you wouldn’t. Some might, but that’s on them and their lack of ethics and responsibility to keep their union brothers and even management safe.

 

[Integrity]

Of course I do! But would you walk around a big oil spill in the building like nothing was there? No, you wouldn’t.

No I would not.

Some might, but that’s on them and their lack of ethics and responsibility to keep their union brothers and even management safe.

I agree.

Management cannot fulfill their responsibility to provide a safe workplace without cooperation from the all employees.

 

[UnionStrong]

No I would not.

I agree.

Management cannot fulfill their responsibility to provide a safe workplace without cooperation from the all employees.

Thank you.