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hamptons804

Hamptons804
Unionman,
Please use a little common sense. The stock market is up --because companies have reduced jobs, cut cost --laid off people --they have "shrunk" to the poor economy ---You do not have to have a degree in economics to figure that out ----just look around you at UPS --see any changes ?? It must be nice to see all the imaginary new drivers UPS is hiring. Also hold on --breaking news ---wait until UPS calculates the increased cost of Obama care --???? More cuts to come --either more people or benefits !!

Finally someone who get's what is happenng. It amazes me how many people are still fooled by Obama and this administration. He is destroying the country almost on a daily basis. For all the union people that voted him in will figure this out when we get handed over on a silver platter to the government. Why would anyone in their right mind want total government control. If people do not realize that is happening they need to wake up.
 

1989

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"Even though unit volume is lower, that product mix is richer and that will drive future earnings," said Kevin Cassidy, an analyst at Thomas Weisel Partners. "Intel sold chips for higher-end notebooks and servers, which indicates that the recession is ending and people can afford more."

At a cost of not paying their mortgage?

JPMorgan's profits have remained solidly tied to its business with Wall Street, while its business with Main Street has continued to struggle with delinquent loans. Largely helped by its success in providing services to big companies, the bank managed to avoid posting a loss during the recession even as other major banks were pushed far into the red. JPMorgan reported a profit of $3.33 billion, or 74 cents a share, up from $2.14 billion, or 40 cents a share, a year earlier.
 

unionman

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Finally someone who get's what is happenng. It amazes me how many people are still fooled by Obama and this administration. He is destroying the country almost on a daily basis. For all the union people that voted him in will figure this out when we get handed over on a silver platter to the government. Why would anyone in their right mind want total government control. If people do not realize that is happening they need to wake up.

Stop listening to RUSH! How is he destroying this country? And you guys call me the kool aid drinker.
 

1989

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Stop listening to RUSH! How is he destroying this country? And you guys call me the kool aid drinker.

He brought the stock market to a crippling low...He killed Las Vegas...He wants to raise costs on corporations who will in turn raise prices on goods and services. I do believe the recession is over, but not because of obama, but in spite of obama. The best thing this adm. did was the stress tests which we all knew what the outcome would be. Raise more capital or the failure of the whole system. The later would have been catastrophic. For my own selfish reasons I'm looking for another stabbing of Las Vegas. Ooops, is that racists?
 

klein

Für Meno :)
He brought the stock market to a crippling low...He killed Las Vegas...He wants to raise costs on corporations who will in turn raise prices on goods and services. I do believe the recession is over, but not because of obama, but in spite of obama. The best thing this adm. did was the stress tests which we all knew what the outcome would be. Raise more capital or the failure of the whole system. The later would have been catastrophic. For my own selfish reasons I'm looking for another stabbing of Las Vegas. Ooops, is that racists?

Wrong, it was under the Bush administration that banks failed, debt crises started, Financial stocks took a beating, and took the stockmarket down.
GM and Chrslyer wouldn't even exist today, if some Rednecks had thier way.
If anything, thats a good example how government intervention actually worked very well.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Wrong, it was under the Bush administration that banks failed, debt crises started, Financial stocks took a beating, and took the stockmarket down.
GM and Chrslyer wouldn't even exist today, if some Rednecks had thier way.
If anything, thats a good example how government intervention actually worked very well.

ah, they really don't exist today.
Gov't Motors I & II are building the cars that bho wants, not what they consumers will buy.
 

1989

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Wrong, it was under the Bush administration that banks failed, debt crises started, Financial stocks took a beating, and took the stockmarket down.
GM and Chrslyer wouldn't even exist today, if some Rednecks had thier way.
If anything, thats a good example how government intervention actually worked very well.


The propping of the mortgage market makers Freddi an Fanni was the heart of the problem. He took the market to the lowest of the lows at about S&P 900 down. He never talked with confidence about our system. He kicked Vegas while it was down. That is the problem with liberals, never take responsibility for anything, only the blame of someone else. TARP, I always loved the idea of TARP...It was the single thing that saved our system. By the way, we have had 42 bank failures in 2010.
 

klein

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/13/personal-income-falls-32-during-obamas-15-months/
Real personal income for Americans - excluding government payouts such as Social Security - has fallen by 3.2 percent since President Obama took office in January 2009, according to the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis.

It's a well known fact, that if Unemployment is high, wages tend to stale or fall.
If the UPS contract was for renewal, I don't think you would expect much of a wage increase at the moment , either.
Companies take advantage now. If someone doesn't want to work for a certain wage, they have plenty of others that will.
 

unionman

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He brought the stock market to a crippling low...He killed Las Vegas...He wants to raise costs on corporations who will in turn raise prices on goods and services. I do believe the recession is over, but not because of obama, but in spite of obama. The best thing this adm. did was the stress tests which we all knew what the outcome would be. Raise more capital or the failure of the whole system. The later would have been catastrophic. For my own selfish reasons I'm looking for another stabbing of Las Vegas. Ooops, is that racists?
He brought the stock market to a crippling low? The tea party idiots did that, that is the title of this forum Middle class morons. Remember Rick santelli screaming on cnn that obama was out of control, when he had just taken office. Bunch of liars is what you Republicans are.
 

1989

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He brought the stock market to a crippling low? The tea party idiots did that, that is the title of this forum Middle class morons. Remember Rick santelli screaming on cnn that obama was out of control, when he had just taken office. Bunch of liars is what you Republicans are.

Santelli has been doing that for years, have you ever seen Santelli and Leisman debate economics? They do that several times a week. People tend to talk louder when they are in the trading pits. I have never seen Santelli scream on FM. So you are saying that govt. spending is not out of control? In 2007 Santelli accused the Bush adm of cooking the books. I believe that 900 was low which was what the market priced in obama. and 666 was a crippling low.
 

1989

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You mean people aren't lining up to pay $40,000 for a Chevy Volt that can go 40 miles on a charge

Americans still love their pick ups.


Top 10 vehicles, current month's sales
Mar 2010 % Chg from
Mar '09 YTD 2010 % Chg from
YTD 2009 Ford friend - Series PU 42,514 29.9 103,039
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26.3 Toyota Camry / Solara 36,251 40.6 68,595
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2.1 Chevrolet Silverado PU 29,886 27.1 72,480
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7.7 Toyota Corolla / Matrix 29,623 33.1 63,740
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6.9 Honda Accord 26,533 16.8 65,579
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18.6 Toyota RAV4 25,781 116.7 40,474
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42.9 Nissan Altima 24,649 26.3 59,483
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19.8 Ford Fusion 22,773 79.0 51,411
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80.5 Honda Civic 22,463 8.8 53,627
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6.1 Ford Focus 19,500 57.5 43,597
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unionman

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Santelli has been doing that for years, have you ever seen Santelli and Leisman debate economics? They do that several times a week. People tend to talk louder when they are in the trading pits. I have never seen Santelli scream on FM. So you are saying that govt. spending is not out of control? In 2007 Santelli accused the Bush adm of cooking the books. I believe that 900 was low which was what the market priced in obama. and 666 was a crippling low.

He started the tea party that day with his rant, it made the evening news.
 

1989

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He started the tea party that day with his rant, it made the evening news.

All the liberals on here say that fox started the tea party. Wow he has more power than obama. But not more power than bush because bush started the GLOBAL MELTDOWN. Since it was on CNN, wouldn't that would mean that CNN started the tea party? You just missed another santelli rant. Again, he doesn't need to "rant" when he is in the quiet studio.
 

diesel96

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All the liberals on here say that fox started the tea party. Wow he has more power than obama. But not more power than bush because bush started the GLOBAL MELTDOWN. Since it was on CNN, wouldn't that would mean that CNN started the tea party? You just missed another santelli rant. Again, he doesn't need to "rant" when he is in the quiet studio.

If only I followed CNBC's advice, I'd be a millionaire. Provided I started with a hundred million....

http://consumerist.com/2009/03/jon-stewart-absolutely-destroys-cnbc.html

BTW...not one person here claims Fox started the Tea Party....They jumped on the bandwagon when the Neo-Cons decided to hijack it from the Ron Paul Nation.......
 

brett636

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BTW...not one person here claims Fox started the Tea Party....They jumped on the bandwagon when the Neo-Cons decided to hijack it from the Ron Paul Nation.......

So that's why 40% of people who side with the tea party claim to be democrats. I get it now...
 

wkmac

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Santelli has been doing that for years, have you ever seen Santelli and Leisman debate economics? They do that several times a week. People tend to talk louder when they are in the trading pits. I have never seen Santelli scream on FM. So you are saying that govt. spending is not out of control? In 2007 Santelli accused the Bush adm of cooking the books. I believe that 900 was low which was what the market priced in obama. and 666 was a crippling low.

He started the tea party that day with his rant, it made the evening news.

Who Started The Tea Party Movement?
 
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