More Voter Fraud?

newfie

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A story presented with no hard evidence, with no clear allegation of what kind of fraud occurred, or how it happened. Seems about as credible as that drunk lady in Michigan.

thousands of sworn statements from honest citizens some of the democrats . you cant cover it up no matter how many lies you tell here.
 

vantexan

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It’s probably not perjury if you “thought” you saw something that wasn’t actually something and you sign an affidavit testifying to it. Doubly so if that affidavit is never even admitted as evidence in court.

Still great material to point to and shout about at conspiracy theory press conferences.
Right, all those whistleblowers, many of them actually election workers, are just misinterpreting what they experienced. Mass hysteria.
 

vantexan

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So you think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen?
If the U.S. citizen is breaking our laws in that foreign country then yes. Sounded a lot more like an ask than a demand by the way. A demand sounds more like telling a foreign government that if they don't fire a prosecutor then they aren't getting a billion in aid. You know, exactly what Biden said he did on video. What they accused Trump of but couldn't prove.
 

fishtm2001

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If the U.S. citizen is breaking our laws in that foreign country then yes. Sounded a lot more like an ask than a demand by the way. A demand sounds more like telling a foreign government that if they don't fire a prosecutor then they aren't getting a billion in aid. You know, exactly what Biden said he did on video. What they accused Trump of but couldn't prove.
You are quite misinformed. The prosecutor was corrupt and everyone wanted him out.
 

vantexan

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You are quite misinformed. The prosecutor was corrupt and everyone wanted him out.
If everyone wanted him out then why did the Ukrainian president resist and Biden have to threaten him? The fact is that prosecutor was investigating corruption of a major oil and gas company that had Hunter Biden on its board. That money they gave Hunter for doing exactly nothing was for the influence his father had. Tell me one other example of a U.S. vice-president traveling anywhere to demand the firing of a local prosecutor? There's corruption everywhere, why didn't superhero Biden fly to all those places and demand the corruption stop before the U.S. would give aid? There's a large wealthy class of African leaders who jetset everywhere, send their kids to private school in Europe, live in mansions while their citizens live in dire poverty. Where does the money come from? Primarily U.S. aid. Why don't we stop it? As long as they play ball with us and not with communists we turned a blind eye. Wake up for crying out loud. They're all corrupt.
 

fishtm2001

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If everyone wanted him out then why did the Ukrainian president resist and Biden have to threaten him? The fact is that prosecutor was investigating corruption of a major oil and gas company that had Hunter Biden on its board. That money they gave Hunter for doing exactly nothing was for the influence his father had. Tell me one other example of a U.S. vice-president traveling anywhere to demand the firing of a local prosecutor? There's corruption everywhere, why didn't superhero Biden fly to all those places and demand the corruption stop before the U.S. would give aid? There's a large wealthy class of African leaders who jetset everywhere, send their kids to private school in Europe, live in mansions while their citizens live in dire poverty. Where does the money come from? Primarily U.S. aid. Why don't we stop it? As long as they play ball with us and not with communists we turned a blind eye. Wake up for crying out loud. They're all corrupt.
"While reform progress was substantial in 2015, it was not enough for many in civil society and at least some reformers in the Rada and the government. Critics focused on the absence of any real changes in the Procurator General’s Office and in the judiciary and claimed that the president and prime minister were not interested in going after these major sources of corruption. Both institutions were known to facilitate corruption. They pointed to the failure of the government— through the Procurator General— to indict any major figures from the Yanukovych administration for corruption. They complained, too, that Procurator General Viktor Shokin was a compromised figure who had served as Procurator General in the Yanukovych administration. By late fall of 2015, the EU and the United States joined the chorus of those seeking Mr. Shokin’s removal as the start of an overall reform of the Procurator General’s Office. U.S. Vice President Joe Biden spoke publicly about this before and during his December visit to Kyiv; but Mr. Shokin remained in place."

foreign.senate.gov
 

fishtm2001

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If everyone wanted him out then why did the Ukrainian president resist and Biden have to threaten him? The fact is that prosecutor was investigating corruption of a major oil and gas company that had Hunter Biden on its board. That money they gave Hunter for doing exactly nothing was for the influence his father had. Tell me one other example of a U.S. vice-president traveling anywhere to demand the firing of a local prosecutor? There's corruption everywhere, why didn't superhero Biden fly to all those places and demand the corruption stop before the U.S. would give aid? There's a large wealthy class of African leaders who jetset everywhere, send their kids to private school in Europe, live in mansions while their citizens live in dire poverty. Where does the money come from? Primarily U.S. aid. Why don't we stop it? As long as they play ball with us and not with communists we turned a blind eye. Wake up for crying out loud. They're all corrupt.
It's really quite funny how you and others on the right have the whole Burisma story backwards. The Obama administration and other governments and non-governmental organizations were concerned that Shokin was not adequately pursuing corruption in Ukraine, was protecting the political elite, and was regarded as "an obstacle to anti-corruption efforts". Among other issues, he was slow-walking the investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma and, according to Zlochevsky's allies, using the threat of prosecution to try to solicit bribes from Mr. Zlochevsky and his team – to the extent that Obama officials were considering launching their own criminal investigation into the company for possible money laundering.[
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
That money they gave Hunter for doing exactly nothing was for the influence his father had. Tell me one other example of a U.S. vice-president traveling anywhere to demand the firing of a local prosecutor?
Biden should have stepped down from the role he volunteered for as head of Ukrainian-US relations. His white house team told him he should have, but he refused. Probably because of the corruption he and his family were involved with.

The liberal press was happy to write about that back then, now they pretend it's all made up. Liars and crooks.
 

The big package

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If any average person was in court and had the amount of evidence stacked up against them like they have on this election between videotape and hundreds of eyewitnesses you would be sitting in jail for a long time !!!!
 

fishtm2001

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If any average person was in court and had the amount of evidence stacked up against them like they have on this election between videotape and hundreds of eyewitnesses you would be sitting in jail for a long time !!!!
The judges in these lawsuits as well as donald's own corrupt AG, have all come to the conclusion that there is no evidence.
 

fishtm2001

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Biden should have stepped down from the role he volunteered for as head of Ukrainian-US relations. His white house team told him he should have, but he refused. Probably because of the corruption he and his family were involved with.

The liberal press was happy to write about that back then, now they pretend it's all made up. Liars and crooks.
Obama appointed him. He put heat on the corrupt prosecutor for NOT investigating Burisma.
 

PT Car Washer

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Biden should have stepped down from the role he volunteered for as head of Ukrainian-US relations. His white house team told him he should have, but he refused. Probably because of the corruption he and his family were involved with.

The liberal press was happy to write about that back then, now they pretend it's all made up. Liars and crooks.
Another Q Aon conspiracy theory? Do they ever stop?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Obama appointed him. He put heat on the corrupt prosecutor for NOT investigating Burisma.
Rubbish.

Biden volunteered and could have stepped down because of his family conflicts. That is what everyone around him suggested he do. He didn't because he is a corrupt POS.

Carry on comrade.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
If any average person was in court and had the amount of evidence stacked up against them like they have on this election between videotape and hundreds of eyewitnesses you would be sitting in jail for a long time !!!!
There is ample prima facie evidence to warrant lawsuits proceed to discovery phase.

Democrat judges don't care about justice, and the marxist media lies to their brainwashed sheep about how there is no evidence.
 
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