Negotiations

[Brownsocks]

The Teamsters Union has a legal responsibility to represent all dues paying members if they vote or not. In Republican controlled RTW states the Teamsters have to represent non Union members. The Teamsters Union have not represented the majority of members for many decades.

If you take a picture of the majority right now and then another picture in 6 months all the faces will change.
Hell we are fixing to strike over yall and I guarantee more of the "majority" will cross than us. Feel fortunate for that, because if we were to cross your leverage would almost be completely gone.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

Part timers are the majority of the labor and the company has been having record profits, seems like a good “investment” to me

I mean, sure, you're 60% of the manpower, but working less than 40% of the hours, so who's really "the majority of the labor?" And think about what you said, UPS is making record profits with the bs they pull on you guys now, why would they want to spend more money on you?

 

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It is human nature to forget what we all went through during the pandemic...2020 and 2021 took a little something out of all of us....We really did not know where this pandemic was heading, everybody was clueless, what we did see was the ground troops were more at risk then those in Atlanta who were given the option to work from home.

I do know one thing for sure...UPS Stock more than doubled during those years...and it had nothing to do with these executive decisions or who was CEO..

 

[Non liberal]

He’ll extend it while we vote, not good look for him if he doesn’t. Remember this is all for the purpose of getting the union in the news these next couple of weeks, step back and look at the big picture. FedEx and Amazon employees are watching and the union knows it, we’re just pawns in this theatre.

He’s a joke if he extends it! In order to win the best contract he needs to do what he said he was going to do. Strike aug. 1st, make them their pants and offer us what they thought they never would in order to get us back to work ASAP. And don’t go back to work until the damn thing is ratified so this never happens again.

 

[Non liberal]

I mean, sure, you're 60% of the manpower, but working less than 40% of the hours, so who's really "the majority of the labor?" And think about what you said, UPS is making record profits with the bs they pull on you guys now, why would they want to spend more money on you?

I’ve heard that they are the majority, but then also hear SOB say that we have 340,000 teamsters in the US, and 150,000 PT? I’m confused.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I’ve heard that they are the majority, but then also hear SOB say that we have 340,000 teamsters in the US, and 150,000 PT? I’m confused.

Everything I've heard is ~60% which is roughly 200k. I honestly have no idea.

 

[Trucker Clock]

I’ve heard that they are the majority, but then also hear SOB say that we have 340,000 teamsters in the US, and 150,000 PT? I’m confused.

The 340,000 number are employees represented by the Teamsters. The actual UPS employee number is much higher if you count all the employees in the RTW states that have not joined the Union. There are far more PTers that have not joined the Union than FTers.

 

[HarryWarden]

He’s a joke if he extends it! In order to win the best contract he needs to do what he said he was going to do. Strike aug. 1st, make them their pants and offer us what they thought they never would in order to get us back to work ASAP. And don’t go back to work until the damn thing is ratified so this never happens again.

That’s a fair point, he already extended their “last best and final offer” one time before, if he keeps doing it they’ll just do it again next time, and maybe show other companies how far they can push teamsters. Kind of like a parent counting down from 5 when the kid is in trouble, if you extend that count or don’t do anything when you get to 0, they’re gonna keep acting up

How did the process in the 97 strike work? You guys are out striking, then the company came back and accepted the demands.. did the union members then vote on it or did teamsters accept and we went back the next day?

If they don’t make the deadline and we strike while we vote like you said, maybe we could do on the spot voting instead of by mail to speed the process up? Or would that not be fair to the people who can’t be there?

 

[Non liberal]

That’s a fair point, he already extended their “last best and final offer” one time before, if he keeps doing it they’ll just do it again next time, and maybe show other companies how far they can push teamsters. Kind of like a parent counting down from 5 when the kid is in trouble, if you extend that count or don’t do anything when you get to 0, they’re gonna keep acting up

How did the process in the 97 strike work? You guys are out striking, then the company came back and accepted the demands.. did the union members then vote on it or did teamsters accept and we went back the next day?

If they don’t make the deadline and we strike while we vote like you said, maybe we could do on the spot voting instead of by mail to speed the process up? Or would that not be fair to the people who can’t be there?

I wasn’t here for the 97 strike, but they have done since I have been here is do a handshake agreement and even though it wasn’t ratified yet we still worked until it was. Then we end up getting a big retro check when it is ratified. SOB Said that was not going to happen again and if he lets it, he will be just as tainted as Hoffa was and we’ll just keep giving the same old concessions contract after contract. Like every politician says but never follows through on, they need to be held accountable or the working man loses..again.

 

[cynz]

The railroad workers did end up with added sick days, and a sign-up bonus I heard 11.000 with their new contract. John Deere workers ended up with a 6.000 sign up bonus with their new contract. The ABF teamsters got 3.50 an hour first year of contract total 6.50 for full contract with pension improvements.

 

[UnionStrong]

I wasn’t here for the 97 strike, but they have done since I have been here is do a handshake agreement and even though it wasn’t ratified yet we still worked until it was. Then we end up getting a big retro check when it is ratified. SOB Said that was not going to happen again and if he lets it, he will be just as tainted as Hoffa was and we’ll just keep giving the same old concessions contract after contract. Like every politician says but never follows through on, they need to be held accountable or the working man loses..again.

Even Carey gave them a few days after the contract expired.

 

[cynz]

We didn't have any money in a strike fund last time. I got 50. dollars a week. This time the teamsters have 350 million, with only 340.000 workers. I heard the formula is 5x your union dues, a month is what you get per week max 500. dollars.

 

[Thebrownblob]

We didn't have any money in a strike fund last time. I got 50. dollars a week. This time the teamsters have 350 million, with only 340.000 workers. I heard the formula is 5x your union dues, a month is what you get per week max 500. dollars.

Yep

 

[Non liberal]

The railroad workers did end up with added sick days, and a sign-up bonus I heard 11.000 with their new contract. John Deere workers ended up with a 6.000 sign up bonus with their new contract. The ABF teamsters got 3.50 an hour first year of contract total 6.50 for full contract with pension improvements.

Abf contract is horrid, railroad sucked because their future negotiating was taken from them by the government, John Deere was pretty decent

 

[Thebrownblob]

Abf contract is horrid, railroad sucked because their future negotiating was taken from them by the government, John Deere was pretty decent

How is the ABF contract horrid? One of the best contracts they’ve ever had. They do not have UPS money.

 

[PoirotAtUPS]

We didn't have any money in a strike fund last time. I got 50. dollars a week. This time the teamsters have 350 million, with only 340.000 workers. I heard the formula is 5x your union dues, a month is what you get per week max 500. dollars.

Doing the math at $350M across 340K folks is ~$1,000 per member - all in.

 

[Non liberal]

How is the ABF contract horrid? One of the best contracts they’ve ever had. They do not have UPS money.

Put it this way, it’s horrid for their truck drivers. They have a decent pension from what I heard but their truck drivers are behind in the going rate for truckers. Just because of inflation it is horrid. Every person working should get $3-$5 an hr just for the inflation and THEN their normal raises on top of that. I’m just saying non-union sheetz is hiring truck drivers $30.50 an hr to start. Their drivers deserve more.

 

[HarryWarden]

Put it this way, it’s horrid for their truck drivers. They have a decent pension from what I heard but their truck drivers are behind in the going rate for truckers. Just because of inflation it is horrid. Every person working should get $3-$5 an hr just for the inflation and THEN their normal raises on top of that. I’m just saying non-union sheetz is hiring truck drivers $30.50 an hr to start. Their drivers deserve more.

If that’s for feeder drivers, that is wayyyyy too low for such a tough job

 

[Thebrownblob]

Put it this way, it’s horrid for their truck drivers. They have a decent pension from what I heard but their truck drivers are behind in the going rate for truckers. Just because of inflation it is horrid. Every person working should get $3-$5 an hr just for the inflation and THEN their normal raises on top of that. I’m just saying non-union sheetz is hiring truck drivers $30.50 an hr to start. Their drivers deserve more.

And those other trucks company's have nowhere near the benefits or Pension. Even then it’s not “horrid” . The ABF drivers in my local were pretty happy.