Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
If the company refuses to give a LBFO, what can he do? What's the option?
Negotiations
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HarryWarden
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That’s what I was trying to say. So do you think it was a wrong move for SOB to demand the LBFO at that date? Genuinely asking
Thebrownblob
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Not at all, the company just chose not to give it to him. In 1997 the company made a mistake giving a last best final offer. We had no choice but to strike at that point.
HarryWarden
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I don’t know. I’m just saying he demanded a LBFO, they gave an offer, and they kept negotiating after that, and you said I had no idea what I’m talking about lol
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Probably about 50-55 hours a week.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
He can't compel them to offer it, it's up to the company. Who give a
if he "demands" it?
Thebrownblob
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Bingo and the company was smart to do so,
There’s another offer coming, which might be their last best and final. But they’re going to do it when they choose to. If we grt everything we want there’s no way we strike.
Thebrownblob
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Correct that was mostly just chest pounding and for show. Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad he’s doing it, but everyone knows the company will not do anything they don’t want to do.He can't compel them to offer it, it's up to the company. Who give a
PT 4 Life
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Not sure what you mean?
Thebrownblob
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Well, you do not understand, a last , best and final offer is a negotiation tactic. It’s not a word you can just throw around if your the company and not mean it.
dogs.bite.me
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nobody is mad PT wants a pay bump... we're going to walk with you in order to get it too.
What we're saying is.... be realistic. 35/hr isnt happening.
HarryWarden
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Ok, so if I understand right, it’s fine for the union to ask for the LBFO as a negotiation tactic, but it’s not something the company can do. Where if the company said, this is our LBFO, that’s it, right?
But when SOB said July 5th LBFO, and they came that day with their offer, did they preface it by saying “this actually isn’t our LBFO”? And if so, wouldn’t that defeat the purpose? Obviously the union wouldn’t accept it because they know that’s not their final offer
Non liberal
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SOB said they needed a deal by the 5th or it would not be ratified by the first. And he said we are not working past the first.
PT 4 Life
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my guess is we will settle somewhere between 20-25. People can say what they want about us but we play a big part in the operations.
Thebrownblob
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The company is under no obligation to say anything about last best and final. SOB wanted them to. By not doing it the company can call him at any time before the 31st if he refuses to negotiate then it would be his fault because they left the door open by not giving a final offer. Which I believe is their strategy they’re going to give a final offer when they choose before the 31st that does not mean the IBT has to accept if it is substandard.
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
That's who I was talking about. Go back through the thread so you can catch up.
Thebrownblob
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Somewhere between 20 and 25 starting pay is what I’ve been saying all along.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
A bump. That’s it. Lol
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Yes, they refused to submit a LBFO. That's their right.
PT 4 Life
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I’m focused on them creating more inside jobs. I’m not here for the pay check as a part timer.
