How much money have they plowed into Orion and how much more will be spent trying to implement this thing? That's one thing about UPS if they get an idea in their head it doesn't matter how much it cost they just want to prove it so calls works. Yes it's a complete disaster. Every day your route changes but in that one day they came out to map it, it now is set in stone and makes no sense on how to run it. They are taking the decision making away from the driver and the customer service out of United Parcel.