New union contract - package handlers

rudy5150

Well-Known Member
Do you believe that P/T should make the same as friend/T? They have always had a way to make that happen. Sign a list and become a driver. Simple.

Why not they used to make the same back in the day before the union sold out the part timers. 20-25 hours a week at 36 dollars an hour is still considerably less than full time drivers banking 80k a yr.
 

BrownMonk

Old fart Package Car Driver
If you did that, you would have a bunch of friend/T drivers that would want to move back to P/T and get more time with their families. A driver has more responsibility(driving, dealing with irrate customers) along with additional knowledge ( DIAD, Driving safety requirements, government responsibility) that warrant a higher rate. Our P/T employees do a good job for the most part but they don't have the same skill level because of the type of job. They also don't have mega O/T forced upon them.
 

PT Car Washer

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If you did that, you would have a bunch of friend/T drivers that would want to move back to P/T and get more time with their families. A driver has more responsibility(driving, dealing with irrate customers) along with additional knowledge ( DIAD, Driving safety requirements, government responsibility) that warrant a higher rate. Our P/T employees do a good job for the most part but they don't have the same skill level because of the type of job. They also don't have mega O/T forced upon them.
So the Porter who cleans the toilets and empties the trash cans deserve $34.10/hr because of all the stress and responsibilities put on them?
 

rudy5150

Well-Known Member
If you did that, you would have a bunch of friend/T drivers that would want to move back to P/T and get more time with their families. A driver has more responsibility(driving, dealing with irrate customers) along with additional knowledge ( DIAD, Driving safety requirements, government responsibility) that warrant a higher rate. Our P/T employees do a good job for the most part but they don't have the same skill level because of the type of job. They also don't have mega O/T forced upon them.
I agree full time is more skilled but they do get paid very well anywhere from 75k-100k thats quite different from making 10k-30k part time. Part timers should get more of a raise thats all im saying.
 

eats packages

Deranged lunatic
I just replaced one of many quitting preloaders because no sucker but me would work 1-2 more hours than night sort everyday for the same benefits and extra pocket change.

Wage increases in cities are absolutely going to help retention. I want to be an optimist but sub $13-14 will likely be just enough to convince people to stay. The "new" scanners are making everything a brain-dead task so it would definitely be a good time to state in contract that preloaders get 10 minutes to be responsible fix s:mad: in the cars.
 

Moneythehardway

Well-Known Member
Bottom line is I think part timers should make AT MINIMUM $50 a day of work. With the 3.5 hour guarantee that works out to $14.285 an hour or $15.00 to hit $50 a day after taxes.

No decent hard working person should be making $30 or less (after taxes) a day for the type of work we do, thats barely gas money to and from work. If $30 for lifting/sorting/loading hundreds or thousands of packages a day sounds right to you than something's off.
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Bottom line is I think part timers should make AT MINIMUM $50 a day of work. With the 3.5 hour guarantee that works out to $14.285 an hour or $15.00 to hit $50 a day after taxes.

No decent hard working person should be making $30 or less (after taxes) a day for the type of work we do, thats barely gas money to and from work. If $30 for lifting/sorting/loading hundreds or thousands of packages a day sounds right to you than something's off.
i make 5.15 an hour
 

Thegameisrigged

Well-Known Member
We really need 15. Especially in Oregon. Fifteen an hour in Oklahoma and you're king. Out here two part time workers would be poverty. Our minimum wage is 10.25 non-metro to 11.25 Portland metro. It's expensive as :censored2: to live out here. A decent FT job and a PT job and you're still on some kind of state support.
Will load quality increase?
 
It seems my preloader changes day to day. Complete section loads for the most part. I'm instructed not to code off the time it takes to locate misloads. We are late out of the building daily. They moved start times in my group from 0845 to 0900 and they question my over allowed. 9.5 list is proving futile. I'm staying the course but wonder where the managers are steering us.
I would imagine if you have your own dedicated preloader that shows up everyday for a couple months, yes your load quality would improve. Of course preload management could prove me wrong if they try hard enough.
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I would imagine if you have your own dedicated preloader that shows up everyday for a couple months, yes your load quality would improve. Of course preload management could prove me wrong if they try hard enough.[/QUO
I would imagine if you have your own dedicated preloader that shows up everyday for a couple months, yes your load quality would improve. Of course preload management could prove me wrong if they try hard enough.
 
Will load quality increase?

Give a dedicated scanner to loaders. Heck I'd settle for one per each side of the belt. It's beyond me why they don't just get a couple devices and have them signed off for by people. We usually get it once and if we don't hurry up we are hurting people down the line who wanna load.

Our preload today was 2 drivers, 3 belt guys, a surepost and they called in the other surepost dude. Had cover drivers loading cars.

If we had 5 to 7 minutes per car, a scanner, and reliable preload I bet you we would. I do four cars every day 0-2 weekly average of misloads.

For the most part have you noticed your misloads to be scanned badly? I get some where I ask myself, why am I working for less than a guy who can't run a small device over a box. If UPS cleaned them and gave ink for them I'm sure it'd be better. 44 misloads friday, 38 were my belt, mostly from random workers being called over to load stacks of open, no HIN, or crushed and just throwing boxes in as supes yell. That's usually the last 5 to 8 minutes we get.
 
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