Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

wilberforce15

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Because Tesla could make their own chips and everyone else was screwed. I understand what your saying and it’s right. What you don’t understand and @vantexan is trying to say is it’s not going to last. These tremendous sales won’t last, everyone else will catch up in the ev race no problem. The ev market will slow tremendously as precious metals get scarce here in the short term, if republicans do as well in the midterms as expected and the presidency 2 yrs later, it’s a whole new landscape. And in my opinion Tesla is on the outs looking in.
So, Tesla cheated by being an actual manufacturer.
Tesla actually makes Teslas, unlike everyone else who designs them and then coordinates 10 factories and assembly plants to put it together.

That's why Tesla can make money and they can't.
 

vantexan

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They started with the banking problem, and it continued into a population problem.

You cannot possibly believe that Japan is suffering from making things too well. Holy Delusional Cow, Batman.
I've read plenty of analysts who've said that. But let's put Japan aside. You say Teslas last next to forever. Unless an owner gets bored with it he won't be a repeat customer anytime soon. So Tesla has to depend on a constant flow of new customers. But their cost limits the amount of new customers willing to buy. And as they do that shrinks the pool even further. Then there's the danger of it becoming widespread knowledge that EV's aren't so environmentally friendly after all. Without the virtue signaling wealthy liberals your potential buyer pool shrinks further. Demographics matter. Fads matter. Climate hysteria matters.
 

wilberforce15

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Somehow, it became cheating for Tesla to write its own software and make its own parts and chips.

Like they're supposed to be sorry for this and wait for everyone else with a bad business model.
 

wilberforce15

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I've read plenty of analysts who've said that. But let's put Japan aside. You say Teslas last next to forever. Unless an owner gets bored with it he won't be a repeat customer anytime soon. So Tesla has to depend on a constant flow of new customers. But their cost limits the amount of new customers willing to buy. And as they do that shrinks the pool even further. Then there's the danger of it becoming widespread knowledge that EV's aren't so environmentally friendly after all. Without the virtue signaling wealthy liberals your potential buyer pool shrinks further. Demographics matter. Fads matter. Climate hysteria matters.
They do get bored. They want the next and the best. And there is plenty of demand in that income range. And then it goes down the income range. This isn't hard.
Hardcore liberals already hate Tesla even more than dumb boomer republicans do.
 

vantexan

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They do get bored. They want the next and the best. And there is plenty of demand in that income range. And then it goes down the income range. This isn't hard.
Hardcore liberals already hate Tesla even more than dumb boomer republicans do.
The ones buying are wealthy liberals. So if Musk has turned them off then it's worse than I thought.
 

wilberforce15

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I've read plenty of analysts who've said that. But let's put Japan aside. You say Teslas last next to forever. Unless an owner gets bored with it he won't be a repeat customer anytime soon. So Tesla has to depend on a constant flow of new customers. But their cost limits the amount of new customers willing to buy. And as they do that shrinks the pool even further. Then there's the danger of it becoming widespread knowledge that EV's aren't so environmentally friendly after all. Without the virtue signaling wealthy liberals your potential buyer pool shrinks further. Demographics matter. Fads matter. Climate hysteria matters.
Let me know when we have the first unsold Tesla.
Let me know when the sales gap with other manufacturers actually shrinks in a given year.
Their lead is bigger than ever, and expanding faster than ever right now.
Let me know when that changes.

Maybe in a decade?
 

Non liberal

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So, Tesla cheated by being an actual manufacturer.
Tesla actually makes Teslas, unlike everyone else who designs them and then coordinates 10 factories and assembly plants to put it together.

That's why Tesla can make money and they can't.
No, they didn’t cheat im just explaining their success, and telling the other companies are coming, fast
 

Non liberal

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What is your evidence they are coming fast?
The gap in EVs sold by company is bigger than it ever has been, and is growing faster than it ever has been.
70 billion dollar investments into making their own batteries just for Toyota. And like I said republicans winning the majority and presidency will slow Tesla big time.
 

vantexan

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You haven't read any analysts who say a major cause of Japan's stagnation has been building stuff of too high quality.

I call bullcrap.
Actually I did a number of times 4 or 5 years ago. The problem with Japan's economy since the early 90's is sales slowed and a major reason is they build stuff that lasts. I remember in the late 80's Japanese cars were a lot more expensive than American cars. People would say that they'd last three times longer so in the long run you're better off. American cars used to be built to last about 100,000 miles then fall apart. Japanese competition forced them to be better.
 

wilberforce15

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70 billion dollar investments into making their own batteries just for Toyota. And like I said republicans winning the majority and presidency will slow Tesla big time.
Let me know when the first unsold Tesla happens, or the first time that Tesla's lead shrinks.

I have many years to chill out while I wait for that message.
 
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