Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

Those are outliers, not mainstream.
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floridays

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I agree, but most Republicans supported him on that. There's a handful of Republicans in both houses that are consistently liberal.
That is all it takes when the numbers are close, a handful or less.
Many more would have voted against him if their job wasn't dependent on their vote (s).
My opinion.
 

vantexan

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I mean I can. I will when I'm on wifi. Shouldn't take too long. Didn't something happen with that Bruce Jenner dude? When he was in the news about trans athletes, conservatives were really clapping him on
He's very strange. Talks like a conservative while sitting there dressed like a woman and having had work done on him. The thing is we can let a few examples derail the party or we can keep supporting those who do uphold our values. What that person over there does doesn't mean the whole party is supportive. And when you see what the Democrats are pushing then it becomes very apparent if you consider yourself a conservative Christian which party you need to support. As the saying goes politics makes for strange bedfellows.
 
He's very strange. Talks like a conservative while sitting there dressed like a woman and having had work done on him. The thing is we can let a few examples derail the party or we can keep supporting those who do uphold our values. What that person over there does doesn't mean the whole party is supportive. And when you see what the Democrats are pushing then it becomes very apparent if you consider yourself a conservative Christian which party you need to support. As the saying goes politics makes for strange bedfellows.
No but trump is and he is the party leadership.
 

vantexan

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That is all it takes when the numbers are close, a handful or less.
Many more would have voted against him if their job wasn't dependent on their vote (s).
My opinion.
What matters is how they vote. And Trump wasn't always right on everything. 100 Republicans in the House voted against his military spending which at the time was an incredible amount. We need fiscal sanity and we aren't getting it from either side. Spending is as natural as breathing for Democrats and many Republicans are scared they'll lose elections if they cut spending. It's ending up with them inflating the national debt to make it much easier to pay for. Can say the Dems and the Fed screwed up badly pumping so much money into the system in the last two years but they know what they're doing. For those who don't know what I'm talking about imagine back in the 60's getting a mortgage on a house for $15k-$20k. In much of the country back then that was a pretty decent house. Then we had high inflation in the late 70's-early 80's. Pay was greatly increased to compensate for inflation. Suddenly that 30 year mortgage for $20k was a lot easier to pay. And housing values got inflated too. Not only were a lot of homeowners able to pay off their mortgages early like my parents did but they had a lot more equity too. It's essentially the same principle with inflation and the national debt. Inflate away the value of that debt and it becomes much easier to service. Everyone who thinks the Fed doesn't know what they're doing are only looking at the surface. The problem is the pain they cause average citizens along the way. Congress put us in this position, the Fed is getting us out of this position. For those on fixed incomes with no cost of living adjustment it's especially painful.
 
Trump isn't in power and while he's still influencing primary voting I guarantee those Republicans will turn on him in an instant if they think he's hurting their chances.
Isn't the whole point of going pro lgbt is to gain votes from the mob? If conservatives think that Trump is swaying some votes being pro lgbt... Well what's more important to the average trump voter? Trump in office or society's sexual integrity?
 

BadIdeaGuy

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Staff member
Not Conservatives. Basically liars, wolves in sheep's clothing biblically speaking. or so to say for our atheist atheist's.

Just for a vote.

My opinion again.
A lot of people aren't one issue voters.

They might be fiscally conservative, while liberal on other issues.
Or they might want a strong military, and social programs.

The whole thing of putting people into a box labeled conservative and liberal just doesn't work. One size doesn't fit all.

We've got a lot of right leaning brothers here who support the union, but may not choose to vote democrat, even though they typically seem more supportive of unions.

People are kinda complicated, and typically have a nonstandard set of issues that matter to them.
 

floridays

Well-Known Member
What matters is how they vote. And Trump wasn't always right on everything. 100 Republicans in the House voted against his military spending which at the time was an incredible amount. We need fiscal sanity and we aren't getting it from either side. Spending is as natural as breathing for Democrats and many Republicans are scared they'll lose elections if they cut spending. It's ending up with them inflating the national debt to make it much easier to pay for. Can say the Dems and the Fed screwed up badly pumping so much money into the system in the last two years but they know what they're doing. For those who don't know what I'm talking about imagine back in the 60's getting a mortgage on a house for $15k-$20k. In much of the country back then that was a pretty decent house. Then we had high inflation in the late 70's-early 80's. Pay was greatly increased to compensate for inflation. Suddenly that 30 year mortgage for $20k was a lot easier to pay. And housing values got inflated too. Not only were a lot of homeowners able to pay off their mortgages early like my parents did but they had a lot more equity too. It's essentially the same principle with inflation and the national debt. Inflate away the value of that debt and it becomes much easier to service. Everyone who thinks the Fed doesn't know what they're doing are only looking at the surface. The problem is the pain they cause average citizens along the way. Congress put us in this position, the Fed is getting us out of this position. For those on fixed incomes with no cost of living adjustment it's especially painful.
Van, I'll read your post. The target of the post was immigration.
I'll read your response in light of different issues.
Trust me, I don't like all things Trump proposed.
 

BadIdeaGuy

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Isn't the whole point of going pro lgbt is to gain votes from the mob? If conservatives think that Trump is swaying some votes being pro lgbt... Well what's more important to the average trump voter? Trump in office or society's sexual integrity?
Define conservative.

The term keeps getting thrown around, and I think at this point it seems to mean "Someone who typically votes for Republicans who appears to agree with me."
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Isn't the whole point of going pro lgbt is to gain votes from the mob? If conservatives think that Trump is swaying some votes being pro lgbt... Well what's more important to the average trump voter? Trump in office or society's sexual integrity?
Dude you've been 100% against Trump since you came on this forum. I don't see Trump being pro lgbt in anything. Can you point to specific policies, specific laws passed, that he proposed and got through?
 
Dude you've been 100% against Trump since you came on this forum. I don't see Trump being pro lgbt in anything. Can you point to specific policies, specific laws passed, that he proposed and got through?
That's because I believe he is guilty of mass murder with the trump shots but we're not talking about that.

You've already said that he's a whore for votes. I guess thats the end of our conversation. He's a whore with no integrity.
 
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