Only 5% of next car purchasers expect to buy all electric cars-Road and Track.

Those are differences in what Republicans talk about doing. Not a difference in anything they've actually done. When Republicans had control, the border was not measurably better, and immigration did not decrease.

I grant you their rhetoric is different on regulation or taxes or whatever. But, no, they are still to the left of where Obama governed during his presidency.
Better look out for @DriveInDriveOut he doesn't like people talkin like that
 

vantexan

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Those are differences in what Republicans talk about doing. Not a difference in anything they've actually done. When Republicans had control, the border was not measurably better, and immigration did not decrease.

I grant you their rhetoric is different on regulation or taxes or whatever. But, no, they are still to the left of where Obama governed during his presidency.
That's just not so. Trump fought constantly to get a border wall built and would've gotten it completed if he had been reelected. He got Mexico to enforce their side of the border and required asylum seekers to stay in Mexico until their hearing. Crossings were a trickle compared to today.

Obama went around Congress with his executive orders. Where the Republicans failed was not standing up to that because he was usurping their constitutional authority.
 
That's just not so. Trump fought constantly to get a border wall built and would've gotten it completed if he had been reelected. He got Mexico to enforce their side of the border and required asylum seekers to stay in Mexico until their hearing. Crossings were a trickle compared to today.

Obama went around Congress with his executive orders. Where the Republicans failed was not standing up to that because he was usurping their constitutional authority.
Do you think that merely rhetoric had any effect on immigration?
 

vantexan

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Obama was the first president to push transgender rights including allowing trans boys into girls locker rooms. To say that Obama was more conservative on gay rights is a misnomer.
 

vantexan

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Do you think that merely rhetoric had any effect on immigration?
Are you of the opinion that all Trump did was talk about it? I just cited things he did that had the border under control. Biden has not only opened the floodgates, he's aiding and abetting getting hundreds of thousands of illegals settled around the country. What he's doing is absolutely impeachable. He's not only not enforcing the law, he's breaking it.
 
Obama was the first president to push transgender rights including allowing trans boys into girls locker rooms. To say that Obama was more conservative on gay rights is a misnomer.
Trump is pushing lgbt bro. Call him an ally or call him a virtue signaler I don't care. Conservative media and leaders have been normalizing lgbt nonsense among conservative voters.
 
Are you of the opinion that all Trump did was talk about it? I just cited things he did that had the border under control. Biden has not only opened the floodgates, he's aiding and abetting getting hundreds of thousands of illegals settled around the country. What he's doing is absolutely impeachable. He's not only not enforcing the law, he's breaking it.
Nah bro I was just asking a question. I know trump did some things.
 

vantexan

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Trump is pushing lgbt bro. Call him an ally or call him a virtue signaler I don't care. Conservative media and leaders have been normalizing lgbt nonsense among conservative voters.
Can you cite examples? Just because cousin Vern was told something by Uncle Zeke doesn't make it so.
 
Can you cite examples? Just because cousin Vern was told something by Uncle Zeke doesn't make it so.
I mean I can. I will when I'm on wifi. Shouldn't take too long. Didn't something happen with that Bruce Jenner dude? When he was in the news about trans athletes, conservatives were really clapping him on
 
I can also point to at least one popular conservative YouTube channel that is lead by a transgender dude wanting to be a woman. There's conservatives in the comments calling him "hot". Lol not my party I'll say that
 

floridays

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That's just not so. Trump fought constantly to get a border wall built and would've gotten it completed if he had been reelected. He got Mexico to enforce their side of the border and required asylum seekers to stay in Mexico until their hearing. Crossings were a trickle compared to today.

Obama went around Congress with his executive orders. Where the Republicans failed was not standing up to that because he was usurping their constitutional authority.
Trump did that. He is correct however repubics, (rinos) blocked him.
You responded to a post that identified republicans, not Trump.
Trump did what he said he would do, I agree with that.
 

vantexan

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Trump did that. He is correct however repubics, (rinos) blocked him.
You responded to a post that identified republicans, not Trump.
Trump did what he said he would do, I agree with that.
I agree, but most Republicans supported him on that. There's a handful of Republicans in both houses that are consistently liberal.
 
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