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oldngray

nowhere special
Quiet, kilowatt boy
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Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
Since when do gas cars get they're claimed MPG all the time? Just because EVs can't achieve peak charging speeds all the time doesn't mean they can't. I simply said they can. Also, range estimates are based on city/highway mix. So when people take a trip and go 80 mph the whole time and are confused they didn't get advertised range is just about ignorance of the rating system.
Again, you are calling me a liar. Please show me where I lied in this thread.
 

JL 0513

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Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
Now it's 15 per Tesla. Wait are they trying to be misleading?
@DriveInDriveOut there is a reason there has been no response. The total range for Tesla is around 380. The Tesla site says 200 miles in 15 minutes. 200 in 15 minutes on a 380 range is only a 52 percent charge. Another 104 miles would take at least another 8 minutes. But you have to figure in for the extra time needed when the battery is at a higher percent.
 

JL 0513

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Have you owned one?

I've rented one for a while and loved it. Only plugged into a 120 outlet while I had it and it still provided a lot more miles than I needed.

People argue like crazy about range and charging speed but most people only take trips longer than 300 miles in one leg very seldomly. Gas cars simply take more of your free time with normal use. Look at it this way. Imagine your phone was gas powered and you had to stop at gas stations rather than just reaching for you cable at home. Then you had to schedule oil changes and other maintenance at places that are only open when you're at work.
 
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JL 0513

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@DriveInDriveOut there is a reason there has been no response. The total range for Tesla is around 380. The Tesla site says 200 miles in 15 minutes. 200 in 15 minutes on a 380 range is only a 52 percent charge. Another 104 miles would take at least another 8 minutes. But you have to figure in for the extra time needed when the battery is at a higher percent.

It's not misleading at all, they're simply saying you can add 200 miles in 15 minutes. Everyone knows total range is much higher. You don't often have to stop and fully charge. You may only need or want 200 mile intervals, or 200 miles to get home.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
I've rented one for a while and loved it. Only plugged into a 120 outlet while I had it and it still provided a lot more miles than I needed.

People argue like crazy about range and charging speed but most people only take trips longer than 300 miles in one leg very seldomly. Gas cars simply take more of your free time with normal use. Look at it this way. Imagine your phone was gas powered and you had to stop at gas stations rather than just reaching for you cable at home. Then you had to schedule oil changes and other maintenance at places that are only open when you're at work.
Not a good analogy. A phone has no ability to carry you or the ability to move mass amounts of product. When you are driving long distance you don't want extended breaks just to charge a car, or extremely long time to charge a big rig.
Plus are you saying there is no upkeep in electric vehicles?
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Not a good analogy. A phone has no ability to carry you or the ability to move mass amounts of product. When you are driving long distance you don't want extended breaks just to charge a car, or extremely long time to charge a big rig.
Plus are you saying there is no upkeep in electric vehicles?
EV use up tires quicker than an ICE.
 

JL 0513

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Little resale value. By the time you finish paying for one its ready for the junkyard.

The resale value thing is way over exaggerated. The recent price drops are a correction from the inflated pandemic prices and EV shortage of the time. As well as Tesla slashing new prices. Look up used Tesla listings and other models. Similar resale to comparable ICE cars.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
Tires are basically all you have to do on an EV. Along with wipers and washer fluid.

Suspension components maybe at 100K.
Brake pads will likely last longer than you own the car - 150,000 miles and more.
How would you know. You've never owned one.
 
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