Palestinian-Israel Conflict (War?)

[rickyb]

I never watched Russia Today, so I guess I never saw any of her videos.

telesur too. its on youtube.

you can just watch her interviews, you dont have to watch any stuff of RT or telesur channels.

chris hedges, thom hartmann, jesse ventura, julian assange all had shows on RT too. are they all bad too? no, they are my kind of terrorists. i think by donation news with no ads is better, but RT was at least better than fox and msnbc.

 

[Thebrownblob]

telesur too. its on youtube.

you can just watch her interviews, you dont have to watch any stuff of RT or telesur channels.

chris hedges, thom hartmann, jesse ventura, julian assange all had shows on RT too. are they all bad too? no, they are my kind of terrorists. i think by donation news with no ads is better, but RT was at least better than fox and msnbc.

Yes, your media and pundit opinions are much better than anyone else’s.

Doesn’t believe the media but lets the media shape his opinion.

Thanks he’s a rebel

 

[rickyb]

Yes, your media and pundit opinions are much better than anyone else’s.

Doesn’t believe the media but lets the media shape his opinion.

Thanks he’s a rebel

uhh yea they are

not all journalists are equal and not all news organizations are equal

some news organizations take alot of money with commercialism, some dont.

some news orgs are in with the govt, some arent.

 

[Thebrownblob]

uhh yea they are

not all journalists are equal and not all news organizations are equal

some news organizations take alot of money with commercialism, some dont.

some news orgs are in with the govt, some arent.

Well, we should listen to your advice on that because you do so many things correct in your life and are so successful

 

[Box Ox]

A lot of Palestinians believe as you do that Israel's existence is unacceptable. How could there be any sort of agreement between Israel and the Palestinians if that doesn't change?

i dont believe that

you can quote me saying all israelis being colonizers.

Ah, so you're right back to saying all Israelis are colonizers and are therefore legitimate targets.

 

[rickyb]

Well, we should listen to your advice on that because you do so many things correct in your life and are so successful

you should first of all be open minded, listen, and then reach your own conclusion like neo did.

people dont even do step one.

it takes alot of courage to look at oneself in the mirror. more courage than being a soldier at war. this is a philosophers quote. people are not brave enough to question their own beliefs.

 

[rickyb]

@Box Ox you can quote me saying all israelis are colonizers or all palestinians support terrorism or whatever.

 

[Thebrownblob]

you should first of all be open minded, listen, and then reach your own conclusion like neo did.

people dont even do step one.

it takes alot of courage to look at oneself in the mirror. more courage than being a soldier at war. this is a philosophers quote. people are not brave enough to question their own beliefs.

Oh Ricky I’m pointing out that your mind is closed. Not that my mind is not open. The fact that you haven’t caught onto that shows just how closed it is.

 

[fishtm2001]

I often wonder what is it about religious belief that fosters profound hatred?

 

[Box Ox]

@Box Ox you can quote me saying all israelis are colonizers or all palestinians support terrorism or whatever.

You believe all Israelis are colonizers who are eligible to be murdered because you do indeed believe that Israel's existence is unacceptable. You say these things over and over again.

 

[rickyb]

I often wonder what is it about religious belief that fosters profound hatred?

religions have typically sided with whatever the dominant economic system was too, so they dont have a monopoly on truth.

 

[rickyb]

You believe all Israelis are colonizers who are eligible to be murdered because you do indeed believe that Israel's existence is unacceptable. You say these things over and over again.

quote me and dont lie because santa clause is watching you

 

[rickyb]

Oh Ricky I’m pointing out that your mind is closed. Not that my mind is not open. The fact that you haven’t caught onto that shows just how closed it is.

were talking about all news organizations and journalists not being equal.

 

[Box Ox]

You believe all Israelis are colonizers who are eligible to be murdered because you do indeed believe that Israel's existence is unacceptable. You say these things over and over again.

quote me and dont lie

you can quote me saying all israelis being colonizers.

if you are stealing land you are a colonizer and you deserve violent resistance

 

[fishtm2001]

"In the 1880s, when the first colonies were formed, Jews made up only 3 or 4 percent of the inhabitants of what would become Palestine. Most of them were Biblical scholars funded from abroad. The rest of the inhabitants were Arab Muslims and Christians. In 1922, even in the wake of the boost given Jewish statehood by the Balfour Declaration, Jews made up only 11 percent of the population. In 1947, on the eve of the United Nations decision to partition the country, Jews still made up only 32 percent of the population. In the partition, which the Arabs rejected, Jews got 55 percent of the land, including the most economically viable areas, and the Arabs only 40 percent, with the rest under U.N control. In retrospect, it could be argued that the Arabs and Palestinians would have been better off now accepting the U.N. plan, but history doesn’t work that way."

John Judis

 

[fishtm2001]

"In the 1880s, when the first colonies were formed, Jews made up only 3 or 4 percent of the inhabitants of what would become Palestine. Most of them were Biblical scholars funded from abroad. The rest of the inhabitants were Arab Muslims and Christians. In 1922, even in the wake of the boost given Jewish statehood by the Balfour Declaration, Jews made up only 11 percent of the population. In 1947, on the eve of the United Nations decision to partition the country, Jews still made up only 32 percent of the population. In the partition, which the Arabs rejected, Jews got 55 percent of the land, including the most economically viable areas, and the Arabs only 40 percent, with the rest under U.N control. In retrospect, it could be argued that the Arabs and Palestinians would have been better off now accepting the U.N. plan, but history doesn’t work that way."

John Judis

here's the whole piece:

Yes, Israel Is a Colonialist State. But Does That Matter Today?

There are two views of how and why Israel was founded—and the debate is crucial to thinking about how the present conflict might be resolved.

newrepublic.com

 

[Next Day Err]

First, I do not care about your respect.
Sheesh, try to not make it personal here buddy.

Second, it's not about "geographic location", it's about their decision to support terrorists. I feel like I made that clear.

Not everyone was and is able to just leave. Maybe someone in their family is sick or infirm. Maybe they were threatened to stay and were paralyzed with fear. Maybe they didn’t want to say goodbye to their home forever and decided to stay and die or take their chances. It doesn’t mean that they support Hamas.

 

[Sportello]

It seems as though a number of right-leaning posters use insulting or dehumanizing terms to describe those who don't agree with them I really haven't noticed that from the left leaning posters.

 

[rickyb]

@Box Ox
if you are stealing land you are a colonizer and you deserve violent resistance

that doesnt mean all israelis are colonizers. did they all steal land? i dont think so. its very possible a doctor for example immigrated to israel and paid someone for their land.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

It seems as though a number of right-leaning posters use insulting or dehumanizing terms to describe those who don't agree with them I really haven't noticed that from the left leaning posters.

Observe closer.