UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I received 5 messages yesterday, the bulk of which were about how to use my helper.
Peak 2016
- Thread starter UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
- Start date
I received 5 messages yesterday, the bulk of which were about how to use my helper.
Future
Victory Ride
TUesday we had 3 go down ...injured due to ice slip/fall
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
We were told about one getting hurt in Binghamton.
Future
Victory Ride
They been really stressing the safety of them this year.....ice cleats ...reflective vest ....observations ....all mandatory ....and the driver held responsible if not in compliance
kingOFchester
Well-Known Member
We are not paid, nor trained on how to manage a helper. If I have to watch every step the helper takes, then there is zero benefit to having a helper speed wise. Might save my legs, but won't save me time.
They crack me up with the "driver is responsible for their helper". Train me and pay me to manage. Other wise i will do what I do and use the helper in a way that will help get me cleaned up. Not a babysitter,
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Well said, which is exactly why I said in another post that I refuse to use one every year. I told them if I am responsible for their actions then I will walk off every stop with them ......simple enough. And I haven't had one for even a minute. Just lighten my load or pay a heavy price. Haven't lightened the load enough so they are paying a heavy price. This week I have been running 4+ hours over my dispatch.....workload is laughable. Starting to feel fatigued and sick from the long days without much quality time they stress for leading that healthy lifestyle they speak of.
So I guess maybe a day off will help cure this problem.
Over 70
Well-Known Member
The helper is an adult, their own employee with their own paycheck and employee number. Where does their responsibility begin and the driver's end?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
We are talking for the most part about unemployable people with little to no self responsibility.
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
So shouldn't management employ the same tactics they do with 30+ year employees such as forcing the memorization of 8 keys to lift and lower/5 keys to prevent slips and falls? Of course this would also include sending them to Intergrad for helpers. UPS isn't going to do any of this as you know, because it costs to much to invest time in these "unemployable" people.
Safety is seasonal, much like ORION, and only used when it doesn't get in the way of costs.
ups1990
Well-Known Member
Sounds as if those drivers purposely set up their helpers to fail.A lot of helper injuries in our district as well. Dog bites...falls...one even had the bulkhead door shut on their finger.
None at our center thankfully.
ups1990
Well-Known Member
What an intriguing question! Many a cup of coffee could be had trying to answer this.
We could say that a driver constantly needs to remind the helper of being safe. Crossing a street from behind the truck as oppose to the front, for starters. Making them aware of potentially dangerous dogs. I personally deliver to those houses where I'm not comfortable having him go into for a number of reasons. Wearing the reflective vest when appropriate. Loading the handcart in a matter as to not a have it pop up and break their face.
The list goes on but seasonals have to use common sense as well. We can't teach them what we've learned during our course of driving in 2-3 weeks.
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
So if helper (who in your words is basically unemployable) slips and falls it becomes my responsibility
Where do you come up with this stuff
Lemme help you out
Just because your center manager says something does not automatically make it true
watdaflock?
Well-Known Member
Today was the first of peak which many of us didn't get OT.
CleverNameHere
Well-Known Member
People go to school for years to achieve degrees for jobs with far less responsibility than the preposterous amounts ups puts on drivers during "normal" operations. Shave your face this, methods that... Another reason I'm off the road for good. I couldn't give less a s..t about the helpers I ever had. Ghetto trash morons who slowed down my already long unbearable day. Sorry I know you're an old prick who has wasted a lifetime slaving in poo mobiles. I understand. I'd have to lick the company sac too old buddy. Hope you can still function for some years after retirement.
35years
Gravy route
No you are not---period.
UPS is not allowed to require bargaining unit employees to act in a supervisory role.
I am not the helper's supervisor.
I have zero responsibility for his actions.
Re-Raise
Well-Known Member
People have to go to school for years to learn to shave their face? You just sound like someone who wasn't able to do the job,
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Does your back hurt from spending the past 35 years hiding behind the contract?
Over 70
Well-Known Member
OK I agree with some points. I have a young female helper and work a bad neighborhood and I don't send her into a spot I'm not sure about in the dark. I'll just run that one instead. I do remind about ice/3 points etc such as slow down as much as needed to remain safe because she's a runner.
