True, but here's the difference. The Bible specifies specific leadership roles. If you have a thousand members they can't all be those leaders. They can certainly talk to others but if they have employment a major contribution they make is to the collection so that the work of the Church can be accomplished. It's not necessary for all members to be leaders. It's fine to be a follower striving to lead the Christian life. But those who seek to hold office within the Church have responsibilities, and that's not to have million plus dollar monuments to ourselves built along with fat salaries for public speaking. The work of the Church is to preach to the lost that there is salvation in Christ. And to see to the needs of congregants in need. In that vein it is redistribution of wealth. That doesn't mean everyone is equal financially as the wealthy give away everything. It means to make sure widows and orphans have food, clothing, and shelter within reason. These days if a 25 year old lost her husband that might mean helping with funeral expenses or paying a month or two worth of utilities. I think the Bible generally is referring to much older women who's husband had died and she had no support. Different world back then and it's the elders' job to do what's best for the congregation in today's circumstances. If the world sees the needy being taken care of by a congregation that cares it will draw them to Christ. Which is pretty much the point.
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newfie
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so if they have the same racist qualities as the white crackers you want to die off we should not judge them but its ok to judge the white racist?
The minister or pastor is basically holding on to some aspects of Catholicism. And many don't want to change their traditions. But evangelists should be full-time preaching to the lost and supported by many congregations as they work through areas. Too much is given to mortgages, utilities, and salaries. The congregation is the people, not the building. Nor should the Church be run like a business. A business strives to make money, the Church should distribute money in the form of aid.
El Correcto
god is dead
BORING
Boywondr
The truth never changes.
Probably got rear ended.
Why is everything always sex with you?
Boywondr
The truth never changes.
Jesus didnt care if people possessed money and wealth.
He only cared that they weren't possessed with greed by having it.
Re: the rich young ruler that asked him what he had to do to be his disciple. Jesus's answer grieved him because he had great riches ... and the riches had him.
Jesus also told him to give up his riches and follow him. That doesn't mean the rich have to give up all their wealth, only as you pointed out it must not be before God in their lives.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
The Bible is divided into two books, Old and New Testament, for a reason.
Simplified, the Old Testament chronicles the revelation of God to his Chosen People, their fall from grace, and His plan and promise for their salvation.
The NT reveals Jesus Christ as Savior, having fulfilled the Covenant of the OT. With the OT Covenant complete, it is replaced with a New Covenant, that salvation is attained only through Jesus.
The point of my thumbnail description is that the contents of the OT that you are trying to ascribe to Christians is inaccurate. Christianity originated in the NT.
That being said, there is plenty of ammunition you could use to decry Christians, without resorting to the concluded OT.
Boywondr
The truth never changes.
We tried to explain it all day.
I wonder what the media would say if people claiming to be Christians started to massacre muslims every day, killing their kids, crucify their parents, chop off a semi load of heads in areas that were densely populated by muslims .
Hmmm.
Would obama call them an "organization" as he did ISIS? I mean do it today, and rape the girls in mass. Hold them hostage and sell them off like cattle. "It's just those Christians of the 21st century."
Ridiculous.
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Seymour Packages
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Lol you just described America from 1619 to 1865. Well done, buddy. #Christian #MAGA
Non sequitur
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DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You're living in the past man.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
It was in his.
The Lord could read the hearts of men and knew that was what he needed do.
Lots of wealthy people of God in Scripture.
It's alright to have money, just don't let money have you.
El Correcto
god is dead
This entire thread is in the past, buncha Jesus freaks. That was thousands of years ago snowflakes, get over it.
You know you want to accept God's plan for your life. The only thing stopping you is you.
floridays
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If Jesus is in the past, exactly why does his mention raise your ears so much?
Exactly why do you attack a "non entity?"
He's paid for you, thousands of years ago, you can be free.
El Correcto
god is dead
How do you ignore all the other God’s? Why won’t you accept their plans? Zeus, Odin, Mithra, Set, Ra, Osiris, Hades?
That’s how I feel about Jesus and “God”. It’s not even that great of a story, the pagan religion are much better than that Jewish egregore non sense.
El Correcto
god is dead
I bet you spend 0% of your day wondering what Mithra is planning for you. I bet you don’t even really give a 
who Mithra is.
That’s how I spend my days, but with all Gods. It’s all non sense fren, fun stories, but non sense.
who Mithra is.That’s how I spend my days, but with all Gods. It’s all non sense fren, fun stories, but non sense.
floridays
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You say that outwardly, inside however you know all you posted is
I'd love to have a new brother. Up to you.
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