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Boywondr

The truth never changes.
Is war mongering in your holy book? Did Christ advocate for the development and use of nuclear weapons and the rapid expansion of military force? Was Christ a fierce nationalist or did he embrace men and women from all nations? Did Christ advocate for a system of fierce competition or did he embrace equal rights for all? Food, healthcare, and peace. If Christ came back to modern America, he would be labeled a "leftist commie" and cast aside. That's if he could make it through airport security. Seeing as how he was a dark skinned man from the Middle East and not some offshoot of Kenny G.

Since you like acronyms, I'll keep it simple for you: WWJD.
Sure did.

In the book of Timothy it reads:

The law is for the lawless.

End of story bud.

Roman's chapter 13 talks about the authority in government set up by God, to protect, and to bring justice.

We wouldn't need nukes if other lawless countries didnt have them.

No other country has so freely spilled their own kids blood to rescue others being oppressed, raped for ethnic cleansing, and imprisoned for greed and power as the USA.
Don't spit on their graves with your biased and trite comments.
 

Seymour Packages

Well-Known Member
Sure did.

In the book of Timothy it reads:

The law is for the lawless.

End of story bud.

Roman's chapter 13 talks about the authority in government set up by God, to protect, and to bring justice.

We wouldn't need nukes if other lawless countries didnt have them.

No other country has so freely spilled their own kids blood to rescue others being oppressed, raped for ethnic cleansing, and imprisoned for greed and power as the USA.
Don't spit on their graves with your biased and trite comments.

Don't sell that miltary circle jerk to me. I'm not buying it. America spills the blood of its poor and middle class sons and daughters to further its interests. America's last meaningful military intervention was its actions with the Allies to liberate occupied Europe from the Nazis. The rest of the poor souls that have perished in war for America abroad since then have died for an undefinable cause. Especially the soldiers that died for a country that never protected them at home. I pray for the families that have lost their sons in service to a nation that forgets them when they come home.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Did Christ advocate for a system of fierce competition or did he embrace equal rights for all? Food, healthcare, and peace. If Christ came back to modern America, he would be labeled a "leftist commie" and cast aside.
Are you high?
Christianity is incompatible with Marxism.

Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system in the history of our planet.
That's a fact.
 

Seymour Packages

Well-Known Member
Are you high?
Christianity is incompatible with Marxism.

Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system in the history of our planet.
That's a fact.

"All who believed were together and had all things in common; they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need." -Acts 2:44,45


"Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life." -1 Timothy 6:17-19
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
"All who believed were together and had all things in common; they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need." -Acts 2:44,45


"Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life." -1 Timothy 6:17-19

“The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion.” – Karl Marx
 

Seymour Packages

Well-Known Member
“The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion.” – Karl Marx

Karl Marx was an avowed racist and strange homosexual. He has no place in modern society. However, from the few useful passages in the holy book of the Christians, one can understand that a true follower of Christ would do everything in their power to improve the condition of all men. As did Christ in a physical and symbolic way.

Violence, racism, neo colonialism, and misogyny sold seperaretly.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Karl Marx was an avowed racist and strange homosexual. He has no place in modern society. However, from the few useful passages in the holy book of the Christians, one can understand that a true follower of Christ would do everything in their power to improve the condition of all men. As did Christ in a physical and symbolic way.

Violence, racism, neo colonialism, and misogyny sold seperaretly.
You will not find Jesus support forced redistribution of wealth anywhere in the Bible. You will find it speak of liberty, and voluntary charity however.

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BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
"All who believed were together and had all things in common; they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need." -Acts 2:44,45-
Beginning of the early church.
Many had come a long way for Pentecost..and many were in need. This was an exceptional time at an exceptional place. This is not the pattern for all time.

"Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life." -1 Timothy 6:17-19
Individual responsibility.
Get it.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Beginning of the early church.
Many had come a long way for Pentecost..and many were in need. This was an exceptional time at an exceptional place. This is not the pattern for all time.


Individual responsibility.
Get it.
Didn't the Apostle Paul mention taking up a collection for the poor brethren in Jerusalem? Giving away all your possessions will do that. Not mocking them, just think there was an initial burst of exuberance as the Church was formed.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Didn't the Apostle Paul mention taking up a collection for the poor brethren in Jerusalem? Giving away all your possessions will do that. Not mocking them, just think there was an initial burst of exuberance as the Church was formed.
Collective church action seemed to always be for other poor churches or Christians.
The collective body, the church is nowhere seen to be responsible to feed the world. The church is seen as responsible to teach the world the gospel.
Individuals are responsible as we have opportunity
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Collective church action seemed to always be for other poor churches or Christians.
The collective body, the church is nowhere seen to be responsible to feed the world. The church is seen as responsible to teach the world the gospel.
Individuals are responsible as we have opportunity
Collective church action seemed to always be for other poor churches or Christians.
The collective body, the church is nowhere seen to be responsible to feed the world. The church is seen as responsible to teach the world the gospel.
Individuals are responsible as we have opportunity
But faith without works is dead. The collection isn't for paying the Church mortgage or the minister's salary but that's the focus of too many congregations. I would put to you that true New Testament Christianity is Elders not only overseeing but teaching. Deacons under the oversight of elders carrying out the care of widows and orphans and the disabled of the congregation. And ministers should be evangelists who work in the community spreading the gospel in the same manner as our missionaries do and are supported by numerous congregations as opposed to everyone showing up to be entertained weekly from the pulpit with little emphasis on actually reaching out to the lost but rather just preaching to the "saved." Radio programs, door knocking, Bible study. A major reason I've about given up on what constitutes Christianity in many circles.
 
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BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
But faith without works is dead. The collection isn't for paying the Church mortgage or the minister's salary but that's the focus on too many congregations. I would put to you that true New Testament Christianity is Elders not only overseeing but teaching..
The NT calls them overseers. Which would include teaching.
The NT says to meet. Infer? Gotta have a place. Buy, rent ,build, whatever.
The NT authorizes paying the preacher. Live of the gospel..Paul took wages...
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The NT calls them overseers. Which would include teaching.
The NT says to meet. Infer? Gotta have a place. Buy, rent ,build, whatever.
The NT authorizes paying the preacher. Live of the gospel..Paul took wages...
Never said you shouldn't pay them. Only it's the elders' duty to see to the spiritual nourishment of the congregation. Being "apt to teach" means just that, not to just fill in when the minister is sick or on vacation. A minister becomes a de facto elder and early on that evolved into one priest over a congregation in the roots of the Catholic Church. Shouldn't be that way, he should be evangelizing to the community.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Never said you shouldn't pay them. Only it's the elders' duty to see to the spiritual nourishment of the congregation. Being "apt to teach" means just that, not to just fill in when the minister is sick or on vacation. A minister becomes a de facto elder and early on that evolved into one priest over a congregation in the roots of the Catholic Church. Shouldn't be that way, he should be evangelizing to the community.

Located minister was an issue that was debated in the 20's. The "pastor system" you speak of was the concern. Buy him a house car, clothes, which is all scriptural..
but then the whole place evolves around him
...Good Elders don't let that happen.
Go ye..means go me.
We're all responsible.
 
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