President Biden

Re-Raise

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I agree. I was just highlighting my personal red line. @Netsua 3:16 and I have our disagreements but CRT alone likely wasn’t enough for many moderates and myself to be completely done with Joe Biden. Which is probably why his approval collapse was fairly recent.

There’s absolutely no reasonable argument to be made in defense of Biden regarding our Afghanistan exit. That was disgusting and a complete own-goal.
I don’t think anyone anticipated what a bunch of cowards the Afghan Army we spent years training and millions arming would be.

They wouldn’t fight for themselves. Apparently we didn’t see this coming, or people would have evacuated before we pulled out.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
I don’t think anyone anticipated what a bunch of cowards the Afghan Army we spent years training and millions arming would be.

They wouldn’t fight for themselves. Apparently we didn’t see this coming, or people would have evacuated before we pulled out.
All intel points that they had plenty of warning that this is exactly what would happen though.
 

Box Ox

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I don’t think anyone anticipated what a bunch of cowards the Afghan Army we spent years training and millions arming would be.

They wouldn’t fight for themselves. Apparently we didn’t see this coming, or people would have evacuated before we pulled out.

70,000+ Afghan soldiers were killed in defense of their country. A price greater than that which we paid in Vietnam. And their military was trained under the western model that includes the logistical and air support which we pulled out from under them when we withdrew.

But that’s also an issue that’s separate from the way our withdrawal was conducted. I believe that was completely avoidable.

Look, if there is a defense of Biden and the Democrats here I’d go for it. Im 100% a lifelong Democratic voter. But I’m not seeing a defense and I can’t pretend there is one if I don’t believe there is one. Help me out here if you want to.
 

newfie

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All intel points that they had plenty of warning that this is exactly what would happen though.
We're always on the wrong side of the motivation. In this case we paid afghani's to fight on one side against highly motivated radicalized islamists on the other and then somehow convinced ourselves that our side had the motivation and drive to win.

Its a game plan we keep running hoping for a different outcome.
 

refineryworker05

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I agree. I was just highlighting my personal red line. @Netsua 3:16 and I have our disagreements but CRT alone likely wasn’t enough for many moderates and myself to be completely done with Joe Biden. Which is probably why his approval collapse was fairly recent.

There’s absolutely no reasonable argument to be made in defense of Biden regarding our Afghanistan exit. That was disgusting and a complete own-goal.


There is much more to hate the democrat party for than the Afghan exit. That’s just the cherry on top that can’t be ignored or “right wing talking point” awayed. CRT is real and the indoctrination of young Americans in our school is real, I got the Bernie Sander’s Castro literacy rate talking point from my high school government teacher in Texas, I can only imagine how :censored2:ed the blue states are today. Biden supports that. It’s honestly the most evil :censored2: they are doing in my opinion and the most dangerous for the future of this country, the taliban is nothing compared to the marxists within our borders indoctrinating the next generation of Americans.
republicans are delusional. They live in a world of marxists and CRT indoctrinating children. CRT is something neither one of these posters heard of 5 months ago, but now it's dominating all schools and indoctrinating all American school children, and Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer are supporting that indoctrination. LOL.
This is a world view detached from reality.
 

refineryworker05

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In terms of the disasterous afghanistan war, the same dumb mfers who don't want the federal government to issue mask mandates, want the US government to mandate the governmental/societal structure of foreign nations on millions of people in those nations. This is an irrational and inconsistent world view.
 

zubenelgenubi

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Re-Raise

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70,000+ Afghan soldiers were killed in defense of their country. A price greater than that which we paid in Vietnam. And their military was trained under the western model that includes the logistical and air support which we pulled out from under them when we withdrew.

But that’s also an issue that’s separate from the way our withdrawal was conducted. I believe that was completely avoidable.

Look, if there is a defense of Biden and the Democrats here I’d go for it. Im 100% a lifelong Democratic voter. But I’m not seeing a defense and I can’t pretend there is one if I don’t believe there is one. Help me out here if you want to.
If it was known that the Afghan National Army would crumble and run

If I was an American in Afghanistan that didn’t want to live under the rule of the Taliban

I would have left the country months or even years ago as the American military began to withdraw troops!
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
If it was known that the Afghan National Army would crumble and run

If I was an American in Afghanistan that didn’t want to live under the rule of the Taliban

I would have left the country months or even years ago as the American military began to withdraw troops!
The military or at least the leaders of the military knew. Not every American there.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
If it was known that the Afghan National Army would crumble and run

If I was an American in Afghanistan that didn’t want to live under the rule of the Taliban

I would have left the country months or even years ago as the American military began to withdraw troops!
Joe Biden wouldn’t say that, denied it and even tried to coerce the president of Afghanistan to lie about it. If that was Trump it would of been impeachment.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
What’s really disgusting is how Joe Biden will not answer a single question. He merely parrots from a script of pre approved questions, calls on reporters approved to ask them and answers from a script written down for him. The man will just straight up run away from the podium even during a crisis not answering a single person.

Donald Trump never did this. He would sit down for unscripted interviews with people who hated his guts. Constantly tweeting, etc.

Biden is a :censored2:ing disaster and they do their best to keep the American people from seeing it.
 

vantexan

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I don’t think anyone anticipated what a bunch of cowards the Afghan Army we spent years training and millions arming would be.

They wouldn’t fight for themselves. Apparently we didn’t see this coming, or people would have evacuated before we pulled out.
That's just silly. You don't evacuate the troops before you evacuate the civilians, period. And the Taliban offered to let us control Kabul until we got everyone out. Biden told them we only needed the airport. How'd that work out?
 

tonyexpress

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Supreme Court Moves To White House So They Can Strike Down Unconstitutional Mandates In Real-Time

WASHINGTON, D.C.—In a win for government efficiency, the Supreme Court has opted to move into the Oval Office with Biden so they can strike down all his unconstitutional mandates in real-time.

"Listen, our caseload is insane as it is," said an exhausted Chief Justice Roberts. "Biden is clogging up the system with all these ridiculous royal decrees of his, so we're just gonna stand here behind him and strike them down as he writes 'em, assembly-line style!"
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Supreme Court Moves To White House So They Can Strike Down Unconstitutional Mandates In Real-Time

WASHINGTON, D.C.—In a win for government efficiency, the Supreme Court has opted to move into the Oval Office with Biden so they can strike down all his unconstitutional mandates in real-time.

"Listen, our caseload is insane as it is," said an exhausted Chief Justice Roberts. "Biden is clogging up the system with all these ridiculous royal decrees of his, so we're just gonna stand here behind him and strike them down as he writes 'em, assembly-line style!"
If only.....
 

Re-Raise

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That's just silly. You don't evacuate the troops before you evacuate the civilians, period. And the Taliban offered to let us control Kabul until we got everyone out. Biden told them we only needed the airport. How'd that work out?
They lived there for some reason! They probably thought the puppet government we put in place would fight..they didn’t fight.
 

vantexan

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They lived there for some reason! They probably thought the puppet government we put in place would fight..they didn’t fight.
They lived there because the U.S. Government paid them well for contract jobs and it was assumed the U.S. Government would see to their safe evacuation when the time came. These aren't people who foolishly put themselves in harm's way because they thought living in Kabul would be cool. We also left tens of thousands of Afghanis who worked with the U.S. Government and were assured our government would safely evacuate them and their families when the time came. How many such people are going to trust our government enough to risk their safety and the safety of their families in future wars we undertake after seeing what our government did to the Afghanis?
 
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