President Biden

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I know it’s the problem with being hyper partisan. Blind people to the fact that both sides are destroying us.
You believe everything should be local but don't realize we're in a federal system from the national government down to the local level. Every part has a role to play. It's the system we have and I've yet to see a better devised system. And I've criticized Republicans and Trump on this forum plenty of times. I do see them as the much better alternative to what Democrats are doing. You've convinced yourself it's all smoke and mirrors. What I do know is I took an oath in the Air Force to uphold and protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Which means if the forces that hate our government grow so large that they threaten it I will shoulder a gun to protect our system. Because what replaces it would likely be much, much worse.
 

Thebrownblob

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You believe everything should be local but don't realize we're in a federal system from the national government down to the local level. Every part has a role to play. It's the system we have and I've yet to see a better devised system. And I've criticized Republicans and Trump on this forum plenty of times. I do see them as the much better alternative to what Democrats are doing. You've convinced yourself it's all smoke and mirrors. What I do know is I took an oath in the Air Force to uphold and protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Which means if the forces that hate our government grow so large that they threaten it I will shoulder a gun to protect our system. Because what replaces it would likely be much, much worse.
Ok what about the forces from within the government that are enemy’s ? And thank you for your service.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Ok what about the forces from within the government that are enemy’s ? And thank you for your service.
We can vote for people to change the system. That's not naive. If you can get enough people together to overthrow the government through revolt then you can get enough people together to vote for change. What you may be afraid of is enough people will want to oppose you with their vote thus the only way to get what you want is through revolt to impose your view on everyone else. Which makes me afraid of you and the country we'd end up with. We can stand up to people we believe are wrong without destroying the very system that gives us that right to stand up.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Exactly. I’m impressed that a middle aged white guy like you understands that so good for you!
In my 61 years I've never seen rights taken away nowhere near as much as I have seen others rebelling because they believe their rights are being threatened.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
We can vote for people to change the system. That's not naive. If you can get enough people together to overthrow the government through revolt then you can get enough people together to vote for change. What you may be afraid of is enough people will want to oppose you with their vote thus the only way to get what you want is through revolt to impose your view on everyone else. Which makes me afraid of you and the country we'd end up with. We can stand up to people we believe are wrong without destroying the very system that gives us that right to stand up.
Brother, it’s people like you question the voting system. Was there fraud or not? You really can’t figure out which way you believe. How can you vote for change if you believe your vote can be manipulated. This is why people won’t take you serious.
 

Thebrownblob

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No, you stand up against what you believe to be wrong. You don't bring down the whole system because you resent those in power.
Who’s advocating to bring down the whole system? Are you talking about Republicans and Democrats they’re hot garbage and we should get rid of them. That’s not the system has two parties that have stranglehold on everything. Thankfully your way of thinking is old over and done and people are waking up.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Brother, it’s people like you question the voting system. Was there fraud or not? You really can’t figure out which way you believe. How can you vote for change if you believe your vote can be manipulated. This is why people won’t take you serious.
The red wave didn’t happen. Very few claimed it was because of a fraudulent election.

It’s as if they knew that was a BS line all along.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
The red wave didn’t happen. Very few claimed it was because of a fraudulent election.

It’s as if they knew that was a BS line all along.
Well, you got Kari Lake screaming it from the mountain tops still. And Trump has even threatened to switch parties or go on his own whole thing has turned into a circus because of him. My personal opinion as he was put there to do just that.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Who’s advocating to bring down the whole system? Are you talking about Republicans and Democrats they’re hot garbage and we should get rid of them. That’s not the system has two parties that have stranglehold on everything. Thankfully your way of thinking is old over and done and people are waking up.
You've already stated government should be local with no national government. Getting rid of our government is exactly what you guys are advocating.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
I'm going to run for an elected office.
My slogan will be " I don't plan to change anything ".

Since everyone else runs on the promise of changing the system , I should stand out.
 

Jiangshi

Heavily Moderated User, Loves Sailfish
I'm going to run for an elected office.
My slogan will be " I don't plan to change anything ".

Since everyone else runs on the promise of changing the system , I should stand out.
I would have thought your slogan would be "Strength Through Joy".
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
You've already stated government should be local with no national government. Getting rid of our government is exactly what you guys are advocating.
I never said anything like that I said federal government has too much power, and I only vote local. Your wild conspiracy theories are interesting though. When you don’t know what you’re talking about you reduce yourself to seating “you guys”. And you complain when the other side calls you a white nationalist a patriot or any other names that could be considered “you guys” lol small minds think alike. I tend to think of us as Americans.
 
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