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Benben

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The other indictments are about other crimes.....fraud, tax evasion, etc where people were caught. None of it was Russia Collusion and that was the scope of the investigation.

You left out the lying both to Congress and to the FBI! Those lies surely had to do with conspiracy and obstruction as that is what the Special Counsel was tasked to investigate.

Only a very few fully know as all the good stuff was redacted. Nice try thou, be sure to play again.

When some decided to fight the charges Mueller was caught flat footed and not ready to prosecute. It exposed most of the indictments as bogus and little more than grandstanding.

Manafort and Stone would whole heartily disagree with you!
 
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BigUnionGuy

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Donald Trump Golfs with Kid Rock After Mueller Report Conclusion
 

MrFedEx

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80% of Mueller's indictments were Russians and he never expected them to end up in court. When some decided to fight the charges Mueller was caught flat footed and not ready to prosecute. It exposed most of the indictments as bogus and little more than grandstanding.

Really? So Manafort and the rest mean nothing? Flat footed? Hardly. Mueller referred a great deal out to the SDNY because it wasn't within the purview of the Special Counsel. Also, let me repeat that Mueller has always subscribed to the legal concept that a sitting president can't be indicted.

If Trump had nothing to worry about, he wouldn't have needed so much legal protection. If it was a witch hunt/hoax/political hit, Trump could have just sat back and let it proceed with zero worry, because he is "innocent". That isn't what happened. It's remarkable that so many people so close to Trump went down, yet Trump either didn't know them, or he attempted to distance himself from them. As soon as Manafort went down, Trump immediately moved to minimize his (Manafort's) roles in Trump World.

Celebrate what you perceive as a victory, when it is simply a preamble for much more to come. Trump is a crook, and always has been. Zero morality, zero credibility, zero honesty. A loser.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Say what you want about Trump.

But, Kid Rock isn't videotaping himself have sex with 15 year old girls....

and then urinating on them.

If R. Kelly was a Trump supporter, he'd be out there golfing too. I'm surprised he didn't invite Kanye instead.

Can I see Trump urinating on someone or getting peed on? Sure, but I don't care, just like I didn't care if Bill got a hummer from Monica, If I were married to Hillary, I'd want one too.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Really? So Manafort and the rest mean nothing? Flat footed? Hardly. Mueller referred a great deal out to the SDNY because it wasn't within the purview of the Special Counsel. Also, let me repeat that Mueller has always subscribed to the legal concept that a sitting president can't be indicted.

If Trump had nothing to worry about, he wouldn't have needed so much legal protection. If it was a witch hunt/hoax/political hit, Trump could have just sat back and let it proceed with zero worry, because he is "innocent". That isn't what happened. It's remarkable that so many people so close to Trump went down, yet Trump either didn't know them, or he attempted to distance himself from them. As soon as Manafort went down, Trump immediately moved to minimize his (Manafort's) roles in Trump World.

Celebrate what you perceive as a victory, when it is simply a preamble for much more to come. Trump is a crook, and always has been. Zero morality, zero credibility, zero honesty. A loser.
And no further indictments recommended according to Mueller! He went after Trump aides and characters in the background in hopes of breaking someone and make them give up Trump. Do you think Manafort wouldn't have given up Trump to save his butt considering what he's facing? Cohen? There's nothing there, period. But y'all go right ahead with endless investigations instead of governing. That's a great strategy.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You left out the lying both to Congress and to the FBI! Those lies surely had to do with conspiracy and obstruction as that is what the Special Counsel was tasked to investigate.

Only a very few fully know as all the good stuff was redacted. Nice try thou, be sure to play again.



Manafort and Stone would whole heartily disagree with you!
The Special Counsel was tasked to investigate Russian influence on the 2016 election and whether the president colluded with Russians to win the ekection. Who lied to Congress? Cohen? About what? Paying off a porn star. Nothing to do with Russians. Who lied to the FBI? Flynn? FBI agents who interviewed Flynn didn't think he lied. Mueller twisted it and claimed he did, broke Flynn financially and threatened Flynn's son with prosecution. Flynn caved and the huge penalty paid? No jail time recommended by Mueller. Oh yes, major Russian spy that one! You're a fanatic that hates Republicans, especially Trump. Boo hoo, you lost.
 
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