President Trump

newfie

Well-Known Member
Actually they have started talking about what they bring to the table. And the right screams socialism.

But I’m not sure that’s going to work for them this time. There’s plenty of time for Democrats to delve into aspects of Obamacare that people like and republicans aim to kill. They’ve been doing that and will continue to do so. Oh. And keep pointing out that the republicans plan to replace Obamacare will come after Trump wins re-election. Yeah, right.

Keep discussing the Green New Deal. There may be aspects that people find intriguing, viable, even profitable.

And by all means, never fear the Republican branding machine.

Just think if AOC won the presidential election. Let’s say she wins as a write in candidate. Doesn’t even run a campaign.

It’s not like we elect kings and queens.

Does Trump have his border wall? No. Probably never will.

Has he repealed and replaced Obamacare? No. Probably never will.

But it probably is time for more progressive and even socialist ideas to enter into the political discourse and ideas on how to incorporate them into daily life.

The haters gonna hate anyway.
Yes and yes and no
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
I'm good with that as long as the candidates explain to the public exactly how they'd want to do it so the Republicans can't control the narrative. There's not a more important issue to me than every American being able to receive the healthcare they need without incurring massive amounts of debt. Nobody should be afraid to get sick because they can't afford it. Or to lose their job or become an entrepreneur because they'd lose their employer-based health insurance.



I dunno. Zero Democrats voted for it in the Senate.



He may not. But illegal immigration on our southern border is a real and serious issue. The Democrats haven't come forward in agreement.

When @bbsam tries to legitimize AOC just think about cow farts
 

oldngray

nowhere special
I as a congressman am not allowed to ask to see your tax returns. Deciding I want to view them to ensure you are not doing anything wrong is not a valid reason.
All Americans even a president are protected from such random investigatory abuses.
No fishing expeditions allowed. Dems can whine all they want about it but the Constitution says otherwise.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Zero Democrats voted for GND because it was a political stunt by McConnell. And that’s good. They shouldn’t vote for it. They should get back to regular order and debate, reform, and find compromise that works.

And Democrats have agreed time and time again that illegal immigration is a serious problem. They simply don’t believe in and won’t pay for the president’s wall.

Which was their wall before it was Trump's wall
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
It was a very politically adept move by Mitch. But a stunt because McConnell gave it a vote? That accusation kinda makes me laugh a little.

“HOW DARE YOU PUT MY BILL/RESOLUTION UP FOR A VOTE YOU MONSTER!”

LOL
Come now. Everyone knows what it was. Everyone knows why democrats voted it down. Yes. Political stunt.

Now the question for a bright guy like yourself is why let it end there? Why not get some real ideas from it and hash it out, see what interests start frantically throwing money against the ideas? Why not see what works and what doesn’t beyond the political idiocy?

Right now the country is at a Green New Deal!/Socialism! Shouting match. Maybe we can be better than that because frankly I doubt most people without googling it could tell you what’s in it.

And that goes for ever single Senator who voted for or against it.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
@Box Ox

Because if you actually think about what she says, you might actually find some of her ideas worth considering.

We wouldn’t want you to think beyond what cable news outlets tell you, now would we?

No. Thinking is dangerous.

Nor would we want to do a lot of work just to have it go up in smoke in 12 years.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Zero Democrats voted for GND because it was a political stunt by AOC.

And Democrats have agreed time and time again that illegal immigration is a serious problem. They simply don’t believe in doing anything they can be held accountable for.
Fixed it for you.
 
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