President Trump

[Jkloc420]

Trump gives tax cuts or wants to reform healthcare. He is a nazi dictator killing people they threaten to leave country. Fidel runs gulags and genocides his own people, he is just misunderstood and it’s really America’s fault. Cubans actually flee Cuba in mass for America.

Yeah dude liberalism is a mental illness.

Dont forget biden loves the chinese

 

[LarryBird]

We had second generation Cuban teacher aid whose parents fled the Castro regime.

She wasn’t amused by this guys views on Castro.

I'm no Castro fan or apologist. He did start out as a revolutionary with good intentions, and he made mistakes and his original ideology got perverted along the way. But to say he didn't start out doing good things for Cubans is untrue, and he was welcomed by the majority of Cubans when he overthrew Batista.

He started out not so different from our own beloved founding fathers. We'll never know how it might have been different had things played out without US/Russian intervention in his vision for Cuba.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Why do you think high schoolers should vote? Convince me they didn’t get a “enfranchisement” boner watching those kids call for gun bans.

“Yes yes, very good. Get them in the voting booth”

-Nancy pelosi, probably

What do you think happens between 16 and 18 that magically bestows upon them the wisdom to vote. Convince me of your position.

Better yet, convince me why a 70 year old person should be allowed to vote, much less be president. They won't even live long enough to see the results of their bad choices.

Considering the state of this nation, seems to me old people have repeatedly proven they are much more undeserving of the right to vote than young people are.

 

[newfie]

Castro did actually start out doing a ton of great things for Cuba, and did his best to continue to, although with notably less success after he was caught up in the cold war proxy bull. His biggest mistake was getting into bed with Russia - if he'd never done that, although he wasn't given a lot of options not to, he wouldn't have incurred the full weight of US economic power putting the stranglehold to his nation, and probably would've still been a hero to his people. Instead he became a cautionary tale and Cuba became a victim of cold war politics.

castro was a willing victim

 

[BrownFlush]

What do you think happens between 16 and 18 that magically bestows upon them the wisdom to vote. Convince me of your position.

They figure out if they are a boy or girl?

Better yet, convince me why a 70 year old person should be allowed to vote, much less be president.

Wisdom.
They already know the you keep running you mouth about doesn't work.

seems to me old people have repeatedly proven they are much more undeserving of the right to vote than young people are.

Undeserving?
When I read your post ...yeah.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

They figure out if they are a boy or girl?

Bless your heart.

 

[LarryBird]

castro was a willing victim

Fair enough.

He was at least complicit in the way he turned to Russia for economic/military help in his struggle against america.

 

[newfie]

Fair enough.

He was at least complicit in the way he turned to Russia for economic/military help in his struggle against america.

he was also complicit when he oppressed and starved his people.

 

[rickyb]

are trump supporters comparable to a cult? can trump do anything and still have supporters?

alot of what he blames for american ills is madness. it doesnt help that the MSM ed up with the russian collusion coverage.

 

[El Correcto]

I'm no Castro fan or apologist. He did start out as a revolutionary with good intentions, and he made mistakes and his original ideology got perverted along the way. But to say he didn't start out doing good things for Cubans is untrue, and he was welcomed by the majority of Cubans when he overthrew Batista.

He started out not so different from our own beloved founding fathers. We'll never know how it might have been different had things played out without US/Russian intervention in his vision for Cuba.

You’re so naive even when acknowledging Castro as a tyrant you offer excuses. Get over it. His original ideology wasn’t perverted along the way, collectivist revolutionaries want to crush individuality and build societies that value the mob over the liberties of the individual. It is their personal beliefs and good intentions that must fundamentally change the societies, usually into the worse hell holes on the face of the earth.

 

[LarryBird]

You’re so naive even when acknowledging Castro as a tyrant you offer excuses. Get over it. His original ideology wasn’t perverted along the way, collectivist revolutionaries want to crush individuality and build societies that value the mob over the liberties of the individual. It is their personal beliefs and good intentions that must fundamentally change the societies, usually into the worse hell holes on the face of the earth.

That's...just like your opinion, maaan.

 

[LarryBird]

he was also complicit when he oppressed and starved his people.

That's a more complicated subject than you may realize, and I don't have the inclination to argue about it or why it may have occurred.

It falls into a what came 1st - the chicken or the egg type of thing...just to summarize it as simply and with as few words as possible.

 

[El Correcto]

That's...just like your opinion, maaan.

It’s not an opinion that Castro was a tyrant: you just love socialist revolutionaries.
Tell me the one about how Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Xi Jinping are all grand leaders who look out for the little guy. Creating better nations and lives for their citizens.

Why do you hate governments that guarantee inalienable rights for the individual from the mob?

 

[El Correcto]

That's a more complicated subject than you may realize, and I don't have the inclination to argue about it or why it may have occurred.

It falls into a what came 1st - the chicken or the egg type of thing...just to summarize it as simply and with as few words as possible.

Tell me the one about how putting gays into forced labor camps or mass graves was a good thing for Cuba.

Why do you hate gays you bigot and support leaders who slaughter them?

Yet mike pence is the bad guy???

 

[newfie]

That's a more complicated subject than you may realize, and I don't have the inclination to argue about it or why it may have occurred.

It falls into a what came 1st - the chicken or the egg type of thing...just to summarize it as simply and with as few words as possible.

i've met many cubans that escaped Castro their feelings were not that complicated .

 

[BrownFlush]

Bless your heart.

From your god? No thanks.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

he's a disgusting individual

 

[vantexan]

I'm no Castro fan or apologist. He did start out as a revolutionary with good intentions, and he made mistakes and his original ideology got perverted along the way. But to say he didn't start out doing good things for Cubans is untrue, and he was welcomed by the majority of Cubans when he overthrew Batista.

He started out not so different from our own beloved founding fathers. We'll never know how it might have been different had things played out without US/Russian intervention in his vision for Cuba.

He was welcomed by Cubans who believed his propaganda. There are people walking around wearing Che Guevara t-shirts who don't have a clue about all the people executed or put into reeducation camps. Here's a clue: if you stay in power by controlling the population with secret police you aren't thinking in terms of helping your people have a better life. By the way, while America boycotted Cuba other Western countries did business with them and allowed their citizens to visit. That Cubans are desperately poor isn't because of the American boycatt. It's because their communist policies don't work.

 

[LarryBird]

By the way, while America boycotted Cuba other Western countries did business with them and allowed their citizens to visit. That Cubans are desperately poor isn't because of the American boycatt. It's because their communist policies don't work.

If I remember I'll respond to your simplified 'other western countries did business with them' explanation/statement tomorrow. I don't wanna get into it now.

And I really don't wanna be coming off as some Castro supporter, because I am definitely not, and if I continue to get sucked into this conversation it will for sure be misconstrued as such.

 

[brownmonster]

What do you think happens between 16 and 18 that magically bestows upon them the wisdom to vote. Convince me of your position.

Better yet, convince me why a 70 year old person should be allowed to vote, much less be president. They won't even live long enough to see the results of their bad choices.

Considering the state of this nation, seems to me old people have repeatedly proven they are much more undeserving of the right to vote than young people are.

Old people voting. More steel mills and coal mines.