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bbsam

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Yes. They'd rather do that than live in a world of hard left over-sensitivity, intolerance, moral/financial bankruptcy and collectivism.
Except you wouldn’t get that. As much as the current president would like you to believe this is a monarchy, there is process. And much as you’ll dismiss hard left ideas, there might actually be good pro capitalist ideas once you get past right wing smear campaigns. I wonder, do you believe Obamacare has proved to be everything the republicans called it? Socialism? Government takeover of 18% of the economy?

Fact is, Obamacare is a market solution. It’s not perfect and can be improved upon, but that’s what happens in the process.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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Except you wouldn’t get that. As much as the current president would like you to believe this is a monarchy, there is process. And much as you’ll dismiss hard left ideas, there might actually be good pro capitalist ideas once you get past right wing smear campaigns. I wonder, do you believe Obamacare has proved to be everything the republicans called it? Socialism? Government takeover of 18% of the economy?

Fact is, Obamacare is a market solution. It’s not perfect and can be improved upon, but that’s what happens in the process.
Free healthcare for illegal immigrants.

I understand and agree with what you're saying, but you are overestimating the intelligence of the electorate.

Soundbites and clickbait headlines win elections now. Democrats cannot pander to extremists and win a general election.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
I wonder, do you believe Obamacare has proved to be everything the republicans called it? Socialism? Government takeover of 18% of the economy?

Not at all. I'd consider myself an Obama Democrat if I were party affiliated. But Obama would be to the right of everyone else on today's Democratic debate stage except Joe Biden. And Joe isn't looking so good health-wise.

As much as the current president would like you to believe this is a monarchy, there is process. And much as you’ll dismiss hard left ideas, there might actually be good pro capitalist ideas once you get past right wing smear campaigns.

Should taxpayers spend $16.3 trillion on Bernie's climate plan?
 

bbsam

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Staff member
Free healthcare for illegal immigrants.

I understand and agree with what you're saying, but you are overestimating the intelligence of the electorate.

Soundbites and clickbait headlines win elections now. Democrats cannot pander to extremists and win a general election.
Maybe we really do deserve Trump.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
Not at all. I'd consider myself an Obama Democrat if I were party affiliated. But Obama would be to the right of everyone else on today's Democratic debate stage except Joe Biden. And Joe isn't looking so good health-wise.



Should taxpayers spend $16.3 trillion on Bernie's climate plan?
Obama was to the right of Nixon. There’s no shame in starting at the left and working to the middle. That’s in fact how Obamacare came to be.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
Not at all. I'd consider myself an Obama Democrat if I were party affiliated. But Obama would be to the right of everyone else on today's Democratic debate stage except Joe Biden. And Joe isn't looking so good health-wise.



Should taxpayers spend $16.3 trillion on Bernie's climate plan?
Should we have a climate plan or just pretend it’s not a problem?

Should we be at the forefront of climate change solutions? Is there a profitable industry? The rest of the world is going on with or without us.
 

bbsam

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Nah. Whatever they originally wanted would be far too watered down for it to be worthwhile for them. They're true believers. It's why Bernie proposes $16.3 trillion climate plans and free everything.
They’d take it. They’d take it because it’s like Obamacare. They’d get as much as possible and use it as something to build on.
 

bbsam

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No. But the status quo is better than the hyper intolerant, morally/financially bankrupt, collectivist world that hard left Democrats and Democratic Socialists long for, comrade.
The status quo is hyper intolerant, morally/financially bankrupt corporatism.

You think people believe this is better?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Should we have a climate plan or just pretend it’s not a problem?

Should we be at the forefront of climate change solutions? Is there a profitable industry? The rest of the world is going on with or without us.
Liberals killed nuclear power. Will they embrace it now?
 
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