President Trump

[Catatonic]

no way jose

Weigh!

 

[bbsam]

How did Donald Trump start talking about "fake news" anyway? As it soon after he started colluding with the Russians?

 

[Turdferguson]

If it's any consolation, I didn't miss you!

 

[bottomups]

 

[newfie]

The dossier wasn't used by the Clinton campaign, it came out well after the election. It's hard to argue that it had any effect on the election.

the Clinton campaign paid a foreign entity for election help. that's a violation of federal law. no harm no foul is not a defense.

 

[newfie]

It's very simple.

Even if every smear about the Clintons is 100% true (I highly doubt it) none of it gets Trump off the hook that he's on now.

president of the snowflakes is tough duty

 

[newfie]

Maybe a smart guy like you can answer this.

Trump is president. He's head of the executive branch. If there was something crooked with the Uranium One deal, why doesn't he just release the documents proving it? If it's a corrupt deal, why doesn't he overturn it? (Might make Putin angry though.)

justice department would have to release whatever they found before, justice department would have to investigate it now. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

 

[newfie]

How did Donald Trump start talking about "fake news" anyway? As it soon after he started colluding with the Russians?

following hillaries lead?

 

[bbsam]

justice department would have to release whatever they found before, justice department would have to investigate it now. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

So the president would have to call Jeff Sessions.

 

[Catatonic]

How did Donald Trump start talking about "fake news" anyway? As it soon after he started colluding with the Russians?

The first time he heard CNN and MSNBC?

 

[It will be fine]

the Clinton campaign paid a foreign entity for election help. that's a violation of federal law. no harm no foul is not a defense.

Fusion GPS is an intelligence firm based in DC. The Clinton campaign paid their lawyers, who then paid Fusion for OPO. Your skipping several steps to get to Clinton paid a foreign entity. A contractor that sold information to Fusion may have paid some foreign nationals for information. I hope you stretch before reaching so far.

 

[vantexan]

Fusion GPS is an intelligence firm based in DC. The Clinton campaign paid their lawyers, who then paid Fusion for OPO. Your skipping several steps to get to Clinton paid a foreign entity. A contractor that sold information to Fusion may have paid some foreign nationals for information. I hope you stretch before reaching so far.

So as long as they put distance between themselves and a source it's ok to use false info from a foreign entity to damage their opponent? Seems like the onus is on them to vet any info used.

 

[moreluck]

Fusion GPS is an intelligence firm based in DC. The Clinton campaign paid their lawyers, who then paid Fusion for OPO. Your skipping several steps to get to Clinton paid a foreign entity. A contractor that sold information to Fusion may have paid some foreign nationals for information. I hope you stretch before reaching so far.

I couldn't get past the words "intelligence firm"!!!

 

[Sportello]

So as long as they put distance between themselves and a source it's ok to use false info from a foreign entity to damage their opponent? Seems like the onus is on them to vet any info used.

What false information did they use?

 

[It will be fine]

So as long as they put distance between themselves and a source it's ok to use false info from a foreign entity to damage their opponent? Seems like the onus is on them to vet any info used.

The information was accurate enough for the FBI to investigate and brief Trump about the existence of the dossier. Seriously, you're going to pull something with this end of motion stretching.

A real problem would be if say a campaign staffer was meeting with Russian intelligence cutouts and attempting to arrange meetings between a candidate and senior Kremlin officials in order to use stolen campaign emails against a political opponent. Especially if that campaign staffer and all those involved lied to the FBI about those meetings and then had to plead guilty. That would be a problem.

 

[vantexan]

The information was accurate enough for the FBI to investigate and brief Trump about the existence of the dossier. Seriously, you're going to pull something with this end of motion stretching.

A real problem would be if say a campaign staffer was meeting with Russian intelligence cutouts and attempting to arrange meetings between a candidate and senior Kremlin officials in order to use stolen campaign emails against a political opponent. Especially if that campaign staffer and all those involved lied to the FBI about those meetings and then had to plead guilty. That would be a problem.

That dossier has been debunked repeatedly. A lot of it was intended to smear Trump and the FBI let him know it was going around. A clear demonstration that there's really nothing out there that confirms Trump colluded with the Russians, no matter how desperately his enemies want it to be so.

 

[newfie]

So the president would have to call Jeff Sessions.

yes and this is the catch 22 you liberals love to play. once he does so your MSM starts a storm about it. So Trump runs a public campaign putting pressure on the DOJ to pursue it.

 

[newfie]

Fusion GPS is an intelligence firm based in DC. The Clinton campaign paid their lawyers, who then paid Fusion for OPO. Your skipping several steps to get to Clinton paid a foreign entity. A contractor that sold information to Fusion may have paid some foreign nationals for information. I hope you stretch before reaching so far.

The steps are there . lying in front of congress is also there.

 

[oldngray]

The steps are there . lying in front of congress is also there.

Also a crime for the Democratic campaign not reporting it.

 

[newfie]

Also a crime for the Democratic campaign not reporting it.

it will be interesting to see who signed off on the payment of millions to fusion. that person will not be some low level unpaid volunteer.