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bbsam

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The indicted Russians had nothing to do with Trump's campaign. And some of those others were convicted of lying after Mueller laid a perjury trap on them to pressure them into saying anything harmful to the President. WDFD.
A whole bunch of wrongly convicted Boy Scouts, eh?
 

It will be fine

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The indicted Russians had nothing to do with Trump's campaign. And some of those others were convicted of lying after Mueller laid a perjury trap on them to pressure them into saying anything harmful to the President. WDFD.
Cohen says he committed campaign finance law violations at the direction of the president. Conspiracy is a crime.
 

vantexan

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A whole bunch of wrongly convicted Boy Scouts, eh?
FBI agents who interviewed Flynn said that they didn't think he lied. But Mueller brought in another witness who said something different than Flynn. That's how they get you with a perjury trap. And Flynn had his family threatened, his finances ruined. In your mind just being associated with Trump in any way makes you a criminal. At any rate the point of having a special counsel was to investigate collusion with Russians. To date nothing has been proven and it's about 100% likely that it was a concocted lie to bring down Trump. So your side has nothing to be proud of.
 

Smashmouth

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Yeah, I guess all these guys around Trump go around doing things without informing him or getting his consent?? So in your world, he didnt build his own business empire, it was all the people around him that made deals and did business for him without him knowing!...cant put lipstick on a pig dude...it is what it is!
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Yeah, I guess all these guys around Trump go around doing things without informing him or getting his consent?? So in your world, he didnt build his own business empire, it was all the people around him that made deals and did business for him without him knowing!...cant put lipstick on a pig dude...it is what it is!
Smashmouth = Judge, Jury and Executioner
 

vantexan

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I was under the impression it was how it was done.
I remember Trump saying on the released tape that he wanted to pay in cash and Munchkin stopped the recording.

If the hush money had been in cash, would there be a problem?
That they were paying for her silence wasn't illegal and if there were any campaign finance laws broken it's at worst an administrative fine. Primarily the whole Stormy Daniels episode was to make Trump look bad, which he did. A key indicator as to whether it put Trump in legal jeopardy is whether the Press is still covering it. They've moved on.
 

vantexan

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Yeah, I guess all these guys around Trump go around doing things without informing him or getting his consent?? So in your world, he didnt build his own business empire, it was all the people around him that made deals and did business for him without him knowing!...cant put lipstick on a pig dude...it is what it is!
For example, Manafort's crimes had nothing to do with Trump. Of everyone accused and/or convicted only Cohen was involved directly with carrying out Trump's wishes, which he claims but as yet hasn't been proven in court.
 

Sportello

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For example, Manafort's crimes had nothing to do with Trump. Of everyone accused and/or convicted only Cohen was involved directly with carrying out Trump's wishes, which he claims but as yet hasn't been proven in court.
It’s all about the mob owning him. If he had just stayed in NY, he’d still be living high on someone else’s dime, instead he played Icarus.

He is owned by the mob, has been for generations. Unfortunately, the Russians took over the Sicilians.
 

It will be fine

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It hasn't been proven that Trump directed him to do anything. That was my point.
So you are a person that connects 30 unrelated dots and comes to the conclusion that Hillary is the devil incarnate, but you can’t follow the Trump/Cohen story? Cohen is on tape discussing payments to porn stars on Trump’s behalf. Cohen admitted in court today that he committed campaign finance violations on behalf of Trump. That means Trump broke the law in order to get himself elected. 70k votes over 3 states, the payment was illegally made to get Trump elected. You have all the facts, they’re public information. Trump is a criminal.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
So you are a person that connects 30 unrelated dots and comes to the conclusion that Hillary is the devil incarnate, but you can’t follow the Trump/Cohen story? Cohen is on tape discussing payments to porn stars on Trump’s behalf. Cohen admitted in court today that he committed campaign finance violations on behalf of Trump. That means Trump broke the law in order to get himself elected. 70k votes over 3 states, the payment was illegally made to get Trump elected. You have all the facts, they’re public information. Trump is a criminal.
That's because the Trump/Cohen is 40 unconnected points.
 
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