President Trump

El Correcto

god is dead
shes definitely in favor of taking power away from bosses and putting it in the hands of workers.

i usually dont quote ppl who werent refered to me by another journalist.
You’re a dum dum. Commies are in favors of taking wealth from private business owners aka citizens of their country and giving it to government appointed cronies.
 

rickyb

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You’re a dum dum. Commies are in favors of taking wealth from private business owners aka citizens of their country and giving it to government appointed cronies.
watch your language or im sending you to guantanamo bay.

commies are in favor of taking power from capitalist bosses and putting it in the hands of workers and communities.
 

vantexan

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You believe someone is going to be swayed? C’mon man.
If the brass in the DOJ/FBI committed crimes then they'll have the right to prove their case in court. You seemed ok with them stalling Congress for over a year on requested documents so if there's nothing to hide then they've got nothing to worry about.
 

vantexan

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watch your language or im sending you to guantanamo bay.

commies are in favor of taking power from capitalist bosses and putting it in the hands of workers and communities.
Is that what happened in the Soviet Union? Power changed hands for sure but it wasn't the working man put in charge.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
If the brass in the DOJ/FBI committed crimes then they'll have the right to prove their case in court. You seemed ok with them stalling Congress for over a year on requested documents so if there's nothing to hide then they've got nothing to worry about.
That’s what I’m saying. Seems like the president acts like he has nothing to hide. Put it ALL out there. What’s the problem?
 

vantexan

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exactly and thats why it didnt work. ppl describe it as a counter revolution.
What you're not seeing is it will never work because the guys who get the power are, and always will be, corrupt. There's no workers paradise and never will be because of human nature. No matter how pure you see your cause there will be others who just see an opportunity to gain power and control over others. As corrupt as you see the U.S. there is a system of laws in place that minimizes the corruption and protects the people from autocrats. And of course people will scoff at that but it's about as good a system as has ever been devised to allow the common man a measure of control over his life.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
watch your language or im sending you to guantanamo bay.

commies are in favor of taking power from capitalist bosses and putting it in the hands of workers and communities.
That’s why their political figures and their associates aways end up wealthy and the citizens poor.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
What you're not seeing is it will never work because the guys who get the power are, and always will be, corrupt. There's no workers paradise and never will be because of human nature. No matter how pure you see your cause there will be others who just see an opportunity to gain power and control over others. As corrupt as you see the U.S. there is a system of laws in place that minimizes the corruption and protects the people from autocrats. And of course people will scoff at that but it's about as good a system as has ever been devised to allow the common man a measure of control over his life.
the american economic system is comparable to soviet system because all the power is centralized in corporate monopolies or whatever. you are not protected from abuses of power, oligarchs, corruption.

i agree with you that there will always be a struggle for power and democracy.

worker controlled jobs already in parts of italy, spain.
 

vantexan

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That’s what I’m saying. Seems like the president acts like he has nothing to hide. Put it ALL out there. What’s the problem?
He may very well have something to hide and doesn't want Mueller poking around until he finds it. But so far Russian collusion isn't turning up as the president's problem, which was Mueller's mandate. Do we really want a special counsel for every president in the future trying to find something they can hang him on? Furthermore if people in the government were actively trying to bring down a presidency because they disagree with his politics shouldn't they be rooted out? Under the Constitution they are committing treason.
 

vantexan

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the american economic system is comparable to soviet system because all the power is centralized in corporate monopolies or whatever. you are not protected from abuses of power, oligarchs, corruption.

i agree with you that there will always be a struggle for power and democracy.

worker controlled jobs already in parts of italy, spain.
You can't be helped, can't help yourself.
 
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