President Trump

El Correcto

god is dead
So you think the president gets to decide what is and isn't Constitutional. You said the public educational system failed you.... You are right, they did.
The bureaucracy began interpreting it in the 1960’s. The bureaucracy is controlled by the president. Now you got a problem with the deep state leader trying to put the deep state in line?
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
So you think the president gets to decide what is and isn't Constitutional. You said the public educational system failed you.... You are right, they did.
No, the president issues an EO, liberal activist challenge the EO in court, eventually it gets appealed to the supreme court. The court utilmatly decides.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
So you think it's okay to murder innocent rape babies.... Shame on you!
I'm so amused by the pro-lifers. "Oh we can (so called) "kill' the unborn. it's a sin.".....But it's perfectly ok for them to die afterward at the hands of disease, malnutrition, violence and neglect resulting from overpopulation and extreme poverty. Want an example? The latest caravan is from Hondurus an impoverished nation to begin which has seen it's population increase by 50% in just the past decade.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
I'm so amused by the pro-lifers. "Oh we can (so called) "kill' the unborn. it's a sin.".....But it's perfectly ok for them to die afterward at the hands of disease, malnutrition, violence and neglect resulting from overpopulation and extreme poverty. Want an example? The latest caravan is from Hondurus an impoverished nation to begin which has seen it's population increase by 50% in just the past decade.
Correction: Can't kill. Either way banning abortion will invariably create a whole new set of challenges to the condition of humanity and the survival of the planet . Addressing them will bring pressure on the developed nations to find the money needed to address them and the option of abortion will become the exclusive domain of the rich and powerful.
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
I'm so amused by the pro-lifers. "Oh we can (so called) "kill' the unborn. it's a sin.".....But it's perfectly ok for them to die afterward at the hands of disease, malnutrition, violence and neglect resulting from overpopulation and extreme poverty. Want an example? The latest caravan is from Hondurus an impoverished nation to begin which has seen it's population increase by 50% in just the past decade.
what does Honduras got to do with the u.s
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Correction: Can't kill. Either way banning abortion will invariably create a whole new set of challenges to the condition of humanity and the survival of the planet . Addressing them will bring pressure on the developed nations to find the money needed to address them and the option of abortion will become the exclusive domain of the rich and powerful.
All them things you listed are the reasons we dont want them
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Lol
Wut

Take your meds
The 14th amendment was originally passed to get around Dred Scott, granting slaves citizenship.

It was never intended to give illegal aliens a path to citizenship through their anchor babies. The proponents of the bill even wrote about it

Show me a law passed or Supreme Court ruling that states this. There isn’t one. It was set forth by the administrative state in the 60’s.

What Did the 14th Amendment Congress Think about "Birthright Citizenship"? - Law & Liberty

Read what Jacob Howard has to say about it. It doesn’t grant citizenship to everyone who comes here illegally and their momma like it does now.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
No, the president issues an EO, liberal activist challenge the EO in court, eventually it gets appealed to the supreme court. The court utilmatly decides.
What do you think the court decides? That the 14th Amendment applies to all those born in the US and that it is up to Congress to curtail it somehow? Or that the 14th Amendment does not protect certain people in the US and Congress would need to expand the reaches of the Amendment?
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Yes, the omission in your reply shows your Trump derangement syndrome.

Point is, the fake conservative Republicans are cheering Trump on to do it with an executive order.

Fact is, Republicans don't give a damn for the Constitution.
The same people who are encouraging Trump to issue the EO are also saying an EO is not the way to do it.
Not trying to put words in their mouths but this is what I believe they want.
Trump issues EO.
9th circuit suspends it
Goes to the SCOTUS where they issue an opinion that throws it back to the Congress.
Congress then has a mandate and motivation to consider Graham's bill.

Just My Observation
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
What do you think the court decides? That the 14th Amendment applies to all those born in the US and that it is up to Congress to curtail it somehow? Or that the 14th Amendment does not protect certain people in the US and Congress would need to expand the reaches of the Amendment?
That the 14th Amendment applies to all those born in the US and that it is up to Congress to curtail it somehow?
 
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