Public perception

[bacha29]

Apparently you weren't alive during the '97 strike...

I was at RPS during the 97 strike. We moved many more boxes than many thought we could including Fat Freddy who immediately following the end of the strike called Dan Sullivan seeking to buy RPS/Caliber.

A strike by you guys will slow the flow of goods.... but it will not stop it and the economy can and will adapt....quickly.

And rest assured a couple of weeks with no pay and enthusiasm for a strike falls dramatically.

Reports are saying that the Teamster strike fund only contains enough money to pay out strike pay for 3 weeks.

UPS is the rancher....You're the cattle.....UPS deals the cards....Play the hand they.ve dealt you intelligently.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I was at RPS during the 97 strike. We moved many more boxes than many thought we could including Fat Freddy who immediately following the end of the strike called Dan Sullivan seeking to buy RPS/Caliber.

A strike by you guys will slow the flow of goods.... but it will not stop it and the economy can and will adapt....quickly.

And rest assured a couple of weeks with no pay and enthusiasm for a strike falls dramatically.

Reports are saying that the Teamster strike fund only contains enough money to pay out strike pay for 3 weeks.

UPS is the rancher....You're the cattle.....UPS deals the cards....Play the hand they.ve dealt you intelligently.

My first week of strike in 1997 I received a zero dollars. The second week I received the $55 check and paid about $20 in union dues out of that.
That taught me quite a bit about saving for a strike.
Having said that this time I will receive almost $800 weekly starting the first week from the international and My local.
My point to you for the blue-collar person not everything is about money when you’re trying to make a stand.
The company will lose far more, probably more than it would cost to just give us the fair contract in the first place. All things being equal I hope the company and the union come to terms.

As someone who claims to be pro Union, your comparisons are curious.

Who do you feel Ended up in a better position after 1997 RPS/FedEx ground employees or UPS employees?

Sometimes you have to sacrifice….

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I was at RPS during the 97 strike. We moved many more boxes than many thought we could including Fat Freddy who immediately following the end of the strike called Dan Sullivan seeking to buy RPS/Caliber.

A strike by you guys will slow the flow of goods.... but it will not stop it and the economy can and will adapt....quickly.

And rest assured a couple of weeks with no pay and enthusiasm for a strike falls dramatically.

Reports are saying that the Teamster strike fund only contains enough money to pay out strike pay for 3 weeks.

UPS is the rancher....You're the cattle.....UPS deals the cards....Play the hand they.ve dealt you intelligently.

 

[dudebro]

Yes this. Some of the media is hyping the $42 an hour. They need to know that it takes 5 years to get to that rate. Imagine making $21 an hour for the same work if not more since most new people will get the crap routes more often than an 5 year driver that has the seniority for an easier route which still isn't easy. It's a rough road to get to top rate. Let alone the inside guys making 1/3 of that and only getting 4 hours a day. The public has no idea. The media twist isn't helping either.

Facts matter to maybe 10% of people. All the rest have already made up their minds what "tribe" they belong in. They either just yell "record profits! management scum!" or they yell "Union gangsters! Wanna lay around and do nothing!"

They interpret the nuance as a bunch of chin music they couldn't care less about because they got e to do.

 

[Up In Smoke]

I was at RPS during the 97 strike. We moved many more boxes than many thought we could including Fat Freddy who immediately following the end of the strike called Dan Sullivan seeking to buy RPS/Caliber.

A strike by you guys will slow the flow of goods.... but it will not stop it and the economy can and will adapt....quickly.

And rest assured a couple of weeks with no pay and enthusiasm for a strike falls dramatically.

Reports are saying that the Teamster strike fund only contains enough money to pay out strike pay for 3 weeks.

UPS is the rancher....You're the cattle.....UPS deals the cards....Play the hand they.ve dealt you intelligently.

UPS was a privately owned company in '97 with only itself to think about. Today, with millions of outstanding shares and thousands of shareholders, they are far more concerned about revenue and market share. A strike benefits the employee far more than the company. The average Joe sees corporate greed and roots for the little guy. IMO. As a business owner, the perception is that owners have endless amounts of money. In UPS's case, they do.

 

[PT Car Washer]

My first week of strike in 1997 I received a zero dollars. The second week I received the $55 check and paid about $20 in union dues out of that.
That taught me quite a bit about saving for a strike.
Having said that this time I will receive almost $800 weekly starting the first week from the international and My local.
My point to you for the blue-collar person not everything is about money when you’re trying to make a stand.
The company will lose far more, probably more than it would cost to just give us the fair contract in the first place. All things being equal I hope the company and the union come to terms.

As someone who claims to be pro Union, your comparisons are curious.

Who do you feel Ended up in a better position after 1997 RPS/FedEx ground employees or UPS employees?

Sometimes you have to sacrifice….

I never received a strike check in 97. All went for Union dues. So they told me. How did you only have to pay $20 in dues?

 

[Thebrownblob]

I never received a strike check in 97. All went for Union dues. So they told me. How did you only have to pay $20 in dues?

I was just a part-time scrub. it was 20 something I don’t remember the exact amount. I only got about $30ish just enough to buy some beer

 

[Zowert]

I had a customer say, “Good luck on your contract. You guys deserve every dime you work for.” But I also had a teacher, who is also union, freak out when she found out how much we make and tell me that we are way overpaid. So from my experience it’s going to be a mixed bag.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I was just a part-time scrub. it was 20 something I don’t remember the exact amount. I only got about $30ish just enough to buy some beer

I was PT and the whole check went for Union dues.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I was PT and the whole check went for Union dues.

You’re also red circle and I’m not.

 

[catstalking]

I also had a teacher, who is also union, freak out when she found out how much we make and tell me that we are way overpaid.

if she doesn't like it she can go back to the kitchen

 

[PT Car Washer]

You’re also red circle and I’m not.

That is correct. Why am I even replying to you?

 

[wayfair]

They ordered the railway workers to accept the new labor deal just a few months ago.

and those workers got a 25% raise

 

[wayfair]

I had a customer say, “Good luck on your contract. You guys deserve every dime you work for.” But I also had a teacher, who is also union, freak out when she found out how much we make and tell me that we are way overpaid. So from my experience it’s going to be a mixed bag.

I watched a reel yesterday of a comedian. He asked one of the girl in the crowd what she did for a living. She said she was a kindergarten teacher. He asked how much she made. She said she made $100K a year.

 

[K20A]

I was at RPS during the 97 strike. We moved many more boxes than many thought we could including Fat Freddy who immediately following the end of the strike called Dan Sullivan seeking to buy RPS/Caliber.

A strike by you guys will slow the flow of goods.... but it will not stop it and the economy can and will adapt....quickly.

And rest assured a couple of weeks with no pay and enthusiasm for a strike falls dramatically.

Reports are saying that the Teamster strike fund only contains enough money to pay out strike pay for 3 weeks.

UPS is the rancher....You're the cattle.....UPS deals the cards....Play the hand they.ve dealt you intelligently.

Oh didn’t know ups won the 97 strike!

 

[UnionStrong]

Oh didn’t know ups won the 97 strike!

He was at RPS! Lol lowest of the in low.

 

[bacha29]

He was at RPS! Lol lowest of the in low.

I was out on the interstate early this AM. For every UPS linehaul I saw at least 7 FDX Ground and Freight. They have a lot more capacity then they did in 97 . The hubs will be running 24-7, the trip lease O-O's will be hooking on to as many trailer loads as they can take and the final mile terminals will be running 7 days a week.

 

[Brown Down]

I had a customer say, “Good luck on your contract. You guys deserve every dime you work for.” But I also had a teacher, who is also union, freak out when she found out how much we make and tell me that we are way overpaid. So from my experience it’s going to be a mixed bag.

I would have asked what she does between 3pm and 8 pm, and all summer. And before anyone crucifies me my wife is a teacher and I feel they are grossly underpaid.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I had a customer say, “Good luck on your contract. You guys deserve every dime you work for.” But I also had a teacher, who is also union, freak out when she found out how much we make and tell me that we are way overpaid. So from my experience it’s going to be a mixed bag.

Well tell her she should have been a UPS driver...

 

[UnionStrong]

Well tell her she should have been a UPS driver...

Or an astronaut