Racism rears its ugly head

[Brownslave688]

Maybe in the Midwest but not in the real world.

You're crazy. To get into school on an athletic scholarship usually all that is required is that you meet the minimum NCAA requirements.


Those min requirements won't get you into to very many schools.

 

[Brownslave688]

Do you have actual test scores and grades of all applications to verify your assumption?

Are you that naive?

 

[MAKAVELI]

Are you that naive?

I think you are if you think race is not a factor in college admissions. I think you need to venture out of the Midwest/South to gain some perspective.

 

[Brownslave688]

I think you are if you think race is not a factor in college admissions. I think you need to venture out of the Midwest/South to gain some perspective.

But why should it be?


If it's a factor that's reverse discrimination to try and hit an arbitrary number.


Should a Asian or white with a 27 act and 3.9 gpa not get in over a black or Hispanic with a 19 and 3.2? Remove race from the application and guess who gets in?


That's called reverse discrimination

 

[MAKAVELI]

But why should it be?


If it's a factor that's reverse discrimination to try and hit an arbitrary number.


Should a Asian or white with a 27 act and 3.9 gpa not get in over a black or Hispanic with a 19 and 3.2? Remove race from the application and guess who gets in?


That's called reverse discrimination

Why ? Because it's been slanted in the other direction since this country was founded. That's why. And again, do you have actual test scores and grades of all applications to verify your assumptions?

 

[Brownslave688]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/04/0...-policies-change-with-laws.html?referer=&_r=0

After California voters approved such a law, black and Hispanic freshman enrollment at the University of California system dropped by about one-quarter in 1998, the first year the ban was in effect. At the system’s most competitive campuses, in Berkeley and Los Angeles, enrollment for those groups fell by almost half.

In the years since, the system has tried several approaches to increase diversity without directly taking race into account, and the numbers eventually rose.

Black students accounted for just over 4 percent of University of California freshmen in the mid-1990s. That fell to 3 percent after the law took effect, and remained there for several years, before climbing close to 4 percent in recent years.

 

[Brownslave688]

http://www.businessinsider.com/secrets-of-dartmouth-admissions-office-2012-10




"I was constantly peeved by athletic admissions. I thought they brought down the quality of the applicant pool," said our source

 

[moreluck]

Why do you say that---are blacks the only ones that can be athletes?

White Men Can't Jump.

 

[MAKAVELI]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/0...reme-court-review-of-admissions.html?referer=
“This is a very ominous sign that the court is about to destroy one of the most important avenues of equal opportunity in our society,” said Barmak Nassirian of the American Association of State Colleges and Universities. “If they strike that, what they’re telling us is that all kinds of preferential admissions of legacies, athletes and celebrities are fine, but heaven help you if you’re trying to reflect the diversity of American society.”

 

[Brownslave688]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/0...reme-court-review-of-admissions.html?referer=
“This is a very ominous sign that the court is about to destroy one of the most important avenues of equal opportunity in our society,” said Barmak Nassirian of the American Association of State Colleges and Universities. “If they strike that, what they’re telling us is that all kinds of preferential admissions of legacies, athletes and celebrities are fine, but heaven help you if you’re trying to reflect the diversity of American society.”

This backs up what I'm saying. No?

 

[MAKAVELI]

This backs up what I'm saying. No?

It backs what I'm saying. That so called "STANDARDS" can and will be changed to whatever an institution decides on an individual or group basis. You might try looking beyond the numbers and realize your skin color has afforded you many more opportunities than someone of a darker complexion.

 

[Brownslave688]

It backs what I'm saying. That so called "STANDARDS" can and will be changed to whatever an institution decides on an individual or group basis. You might try looking beyond the numbers and realize your skin color has afforded you many more opportunities than someone of a darker complexion.

Affirmative action is exactly the OPPOSITE of this statement.


Like I said. Someone can't cry about wanting to be treated equally and in the next breath ask for special treatment.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Affirmative action is exactly the OPPOSITE of this statement.


Like I said. Someone can't cry about wanting to be treated equally and in the next breath ask for special treatment.

So we can agree that just because of the color of your skin or what circumstances you came in this world should not effect the opportunity of an education, right?

 

[MAKAVELI]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/university-missouri-protests-grow-athletes-jump-074405735.html
University of Missouri president leaves over race complaints

 

[oldngray]

The university probably promised the president another cushy job to slide over into if he would resign hoping the problems would go away.

Those protesters won't be satisfied because they also had a list of mostly unreasonable demands I doubt the university will agree to.

 

[MAKAVELI]

The university probably promised the president another cushy job to slide over into if he would resign hoping the problems would go away.

Those protesters won't be satisfied because they also had a list of mostly unreasonable demands I doubt the university will agree to.

Don't underestimate the power of the money that the sports programs bring to the University.

 

[Brownslave688]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/university-missouri-protests-grow-athletes-jump-074405735.html
University of Missouri president leaves over race complaints

Boo.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...er-strike-raises-fascinating-questions-110815




Great article on the absurdity of the situation.



Football players strike for 24 hours and the school president is fired. Pandora's box has just been opened.

 

[newfie]

PC world scores another victory.

apparently the university president did not beg and grovel enough.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Boo.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...er-strike-raises-fascinating-questions-110815




Great article on the absurdity of the situation.



Football players strike for 24 hours and the school president is fired. Pandora's box has just been opened.

Would you rather have the situation turned into something violent and ugly? I'd say these are some very smart young man who realize the power they had to make a difference without using violence as a means to protest.

 

[Brownslave688]

Would you rather have the situation turned into something violent and ugly? I'd say these are some very smart young man who realize the power they had to make a difference without using violence as a means to protest.

Why would it get violent that would be the protestors own doing.



All I'm saying is this is very bad for the future of college athletics. What if the 4 playoff teams this year decide to protest until they are paid to play the game?