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vantexan

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no right to return

he has no right to kick them out in the first place
OK, let's say he's not going to build housing for the 1.9 million in Gaza but elsewhere. Why would the Gazans want to return to the "world's largest open air prison?" And have you seen Gaza? It's almost completely destroyed. Why are you wanting them to live in the rubble?
 

Doublestandards

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OK, let's say he's not going to build housing for the 1.9 million in Gaza but elsewhere. Why would the Gazans want to return to the "world's largest open air prison?" And have you seen Gaza? It's almost completely destroyed. Why are you wanting them to live in the rubble?
Do you see how the goal posts keep moving though?
 

Over70irregs

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Ending once and for all. You mentioned tongues. A lot of emphasis is put on speaking in an unknown tongue. The word tongue in the King James Version was Middle Age English that just meant language. Men in the very early Church were given various gifts by the Apostles. One was the ability to go into a foreign land and speak to people in their own language. Facilitated spreading the Gospel. But some were abusing their gift by talking in languages that others couldn't understand. Paul said it was of no benefit to others to speak in an unknown tongue in the KJV translation. No benefit to speak in an unknown language. But some denominations have used "an unknown tongue" as saying people could speak in the tongue of angels. Would have somebody doing so while another "interpreted." Not for nothing that the Apostle Paul once said to the Athenians that he perceived they were too superstitious. Speaking in tongues, doing miracles, prophesying, those times have passed.
No those times are still here. I don’t believe the Apostles had the ability to give spiritual gifts. They performed miracles but the Holy Spirit was a permanent manifestation after Jesus ascended. You cannot give the gift of tongues, prophecy, healing. You can do the act or pray for someone to get it. Just cannot give the power. One of the reasons Paul was so powerful was that he had the gift of tongues. I believe he let people know that even though they had that power his power was greater. But it was nothing to brag about to others in the church.
 
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vantexan

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No those times are still here. I don’t believe the Apostles had the ability to give spiritual gifts. They performed miracles but the Holy Spirit was a permanent manifestation after Jesus ascended. You cannot give the gift of tongues, prophecy, healing. You can do the act or pray for someone to get it. Just cannot give the power.
Acts 8:18 and Romans 1:11.
 

Doublestandards

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Depends on whether Trump does something that's different from what his detractors say he's doing, which happens most of the time.
But it’s already changed. You said heal said in press conference that they could come back, now it’s “they won’t be allowed back” and suddenly it’s fine.

What is your line for this situation that would no longer be fine for you?
 

vantexan

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But it’s already changed. You said heal said in press conference that they could come back, now it’s “they won’t be allowed back” and suddenly it’s fine.

What is your line for this situation that would no longer be fine for you?
He was asked if they would have the right to return. Was he talking about specifically to not being allowed to return to the rubble or not to be able to return to Gaza at all? My personal hope is that all Gazans will be relocated to other countries and kept there. Almost all homes have been destroyed in Gaza. What else can they do? If Trump doesn't allow them to ever return then fine by me. They refuse to live in peace.
 

rickyb

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OK, let's say he's not going to build housing for the 1.9 million in Gaza but elsewhere. Why would the Gazans want to return to the "world's largest open air prison?" And have you seen Gaza? It's almost completely destroyed. Why are you wanting them to live in the rubble?
i didnt want there to be a genocide. we protested against it and it was a lot of fun calling out our anti christian govts including israel.

its not about what i want, its what they want.

it doesnt have to be an open air prison, thats because of those rotten israelis we fund.
 

Over70irregs

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Acts 8:18 and Romans 1:11.
You will see further in Acts the man wanted to buy the power but you cannot. It is not theirs to sell. The laying of hands is scripture as a conduit. Jesus spoke miracles, laid hands, also used spit with clay, also a woman touched his garment. In Romans when he says impart he is saying inform you.
 

Over70irregs

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He was asked if they would have the right to return. Was he talking about specifically to not being allowed to return to the rubble or not to be able to return to Gaza at all? My personal hope is that all Gazans will be relocated to other countries and kept there. Almost all homes have been destroyed in Gaza. What else can they do? If Trump doesn't allow them to ever return then fine by me. They refuse to live in peace.
They cannot live in peace. Remember Israel swore an oath on their progeny when they chose Barabas. In the end they will HAVE to profess Jesus as lord I believe according to scripture.
 

vantexan

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You will see further in Acts the man wanted to buy the power but you cannot. It is not theirs to sell. The laying of hands is scripture as a conduit. Jesus spoke miracles, laid hands, also used spit with clay, also a woman touched his garment. In Romans when he says impart he is saying inform you.
The Apostles imparted spiritual gifts with the laying on of hands. Those given gifts often had the ability to impart once to others. All to spread the Gospel.
 

Doublestandards

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He was asked if they would have the right to return. Was he talking about specifically to not being allowed to return to the rubble or not to be able to return to Gaza at all? My personal hope is that all Gazans will be relocated to other countries and kept there. Almost all homes have been destroyed in Gaza. What else can they do? If Trump doesn't allow them to ever return then fine by me. They refuse to live in peace.
You have often talked about the federal government not giving enough to North Carolina while giving to other states, why do you not hold Trump and republicans accountable the same way now that they are in charge and not giving money there while getting ready to give all this money to Israel and funding for Gaza?
 

rickyb

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You have often talked about the federal government not giving enough to North Carolina while giving to other states, why do you not hold Trump and republicans accountable the same way now that they are in charge and not giving money there while getting ready to give all this money to Israel and funding for Gaza?
because hes not honest with himself. its off and on with him.
 

Over70irregs

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Remember some Jews did, not all Jews. And was that oath forever?
The ones that were there took it upon themselves. They were the representatives when the choice was made. When the Roman guy saw what they did notice he symbolically washed his hands of it. He didn’t want to do anything and even gave them an easy shoe-in choice. Rest is history. This is why they have suffered so regretfully.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

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You have often talked about the federal government not giving enough to North Carolina while giving to other states, why do you not hold Trump and republicans accountable the same way now that they are in charge and not giving money there while getting ready to give all this money to Israel and funding for Gaza?
Link me to the proposal about how much taxpayer money they're going to fund Gaza with.

Oh you can't because you people just make crap up.

Okay carry on, no need to respond Harry.
 

vantexan

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The ones that were there took it upon themselves. They were the representatives when the choice was made. When the Roman guy saw what they did notice he symbolically washed his hands of it. He didn’t want to do anything and even gave them an easy shoe-in choice. Rest is history. This is why they have suffered so regretfully.
All Jews have certainly suffered for the death of Jesus. But nowhere as Christians are we told to persecute them.
 
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