roll away, never shown / told hand brake tightening

[PASinterference]

Your supplements have language specific to rollaway accidents??

In my former center a rollaway will merit a promotion to on car sup. True story.

We heard you the 17th time you said that. FFS do you ever do anything else but post your so called wisdom on here. Get a life.

 

[11.19igrad]

I had a stop on a slight slope, as far as I know, I did my normal park and hand brake routine. I turn around after delivering, this #$%*%^$# truck is rolling back towards the right, into a yard crushing a mailbox. Its the worst nightmare dream-like experience I can't even explain. I just got reinstated after someone backed into my truck while I was out doing a delivery, now this.

What I can't fathom is how we are not drilled about checking the tightness of our hand brakes every day. It should be in our diad and there should be a daily routine check by mechanics that have signatures. I've never been told anything about tightening or loosening the handbrake. We are behind these trucks countless times doing deliveries, how are we not reminded to check this every day like we are told everything else, use horns, feet on pavement, etc.

I could have been killed, someone else could have been, this could have been absolutely devastating. I have some questions for a lawyer. How can the DOT not require management to regularly quiz us on handbrake checks? When we got back to the center, my sup tested the brake and it rolled in drive with the brake up. He showed me how to tighten it. Ive never been shown this. Ive never heard anyone talk about this ever.

why is this ing funny?

 

[Boywondr]

why is this ing funny?

It's not. It's just status quo for the training we get from the supes they promote.
Many of them:

Cant drive by the methods they promote.

Cant drive a commercial vehicle in a skillful and professional manner.

Wont train new drivers comprehensively in the basics because they dont know the basics. They got the job because no one else wanted it and they didnt like manual labor.

And the worst element of their negligence is that they dont care enough to realize the ramifications of not training people correctly who have never driven a commercial vehicle before but will be burdened with the task of avoiding thousands of poor drivers, driving and parking defensively, and what may happen to their life when an unattended toddler walks out from between parked cars and they are busy looking for property addresses, not knowing how really easy it is to run over a child because they are unaware of how fast things change in the street.

A college degree wont teach you these things. The student will only be as good as their teacher and the result of incomplete training, even in the little things, can kill.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

BTW another thing. Drivers are not supposed to work on equipment , adjust , loosen, tighten anything. Write it up. If it is a safety item it will put out of service until repaired .

The vehicle will not roll if placed in park with the parking brake on.Unless mechanical failure. Like I said before either you messed up or a shop inspection of vehicle will clear you from fault.

You couldn't be more wrong.
Adjustment of the handbrake is part of the pretrip.

 

[SLW]

Honestly they didn't teach me that at the beginning either. Definitely not at Integrad. Anyway why do they have to put the damn thing all the way down at my foot. Considered clamping something on there so I can pull it without doubling completely over.

 

[Poop Head]

why is this ing funny?

That youre so bad at driving!

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

why is this ing funny?

Because you quoted yourself?

 

[542thruNthru]

You couldn't be more wrong.
Adjustment of the handbrake is part of the pretrip.

I don't think she even knows what the handbrake looks like.

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

An audible mechanism that beeps when you put the vehicle in reverse gear?
That would be a device someone should market, you know, like on a garbage truck.

I keep those in stock if you want one bad enough.

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

We had a fatality with a backing, horn honking shifter...but then the driver crushed against the dock had ear buds...but wait a minute, we are talking safety here. I had one of the few "new" Ford pkg. cars for several years. It had electric park brakes with a standard trans. A God send as my left elbow/arm always ached/tendinitis etc. from the damn parking brakes of old. UPS could not wait to get rid of all the Fords as the park brake system was expensive to maintain/repair. Luckily, I soon went to feeders. I NEVER use park brakes in civilian life. NEVER. Never had a roll away here or there.

Our buildings fire/disaster sound is the belt buzzer. I guess UPS was too cheap to buy a separate system. I asked why this was so- blank stares. I suggested that there is much delay in folks heading towards the exits in drills and such. Much apathy/indifference. Takes a little bit to note the cadence of the buzzer as its constantly sounding during operations. Noting that part-time sups continued to do hourly work the whole drill, never leaving the building on and on. Of course, my inquiries during safety meetings were met with derision/mocking/hate-kinda like on BC. It's weird as I always enjoyed being paid to do nothing but stand around. Watching mgt. chomping at the bit to "get back in there". We had 3 roll aways in one week, happily never a word. Not even a warning letter, just write up the damage...

To the OP: It's possible you were never trained. Possible. We have 20 something olds for on road feeder sups., never have driven more than a irreg. cart...maybe. Lawyering up? Wow.

Electric park brake Fords? That's a new one on me.

 

[Redtag]

the truck was still for close to 2 minutes before it started to roll. something gave out.

If something gave out then it would still be out, the parking pawl is not going to fix itself. Most likely you were not quite in park and it popped out while you were out of the truck.

Anyway, this is what the parking pawl looks like.

 

[no_map_needed]

Some of the new automatic package cars have a wierd type of transmission that will roll away just like a manual. You most likely didn't have it in park. The e-brake is useless on a slope in these new cars. To any normal person this would be a defect but some idiot decided the cost savings was worth it.

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

If something gave out then it would still be out, the parking pawl is not going to fix itself. Most likely you were not quite in park and it popped out while you were out of the truck.

Anyway, this is what the parking pawl looks like.

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And as they are designed, they are of limited use when vehicle is moving. You still need parking brake to have a resonable amount of tension on the handle.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

And as they are designed, they are of limited use when vehicle is moving. You still need parking brake to have a resonable amount of tension on the handle.

It was mentioned earlier that it was a possibility that the shift lever may not have been fully engaged in Park and may have slipped to Drive. I contended that while it may have shifted to Neutral that I highly doubted that it could have shifted in to Drive. Who is correct?

 

[fishtm2001]

Retired after 31 years driving accident free. I can tell you I dodged a lot of bullets. The company was so appreciative I came in my last day and was welcomed with a half eaten cake. That was it.

 

[burrheadd]

Retired after 31 years driving accident free. I can tell you I dodged a lot of bullets. The company was so appreciative I came in my last day and was welcomed with a half eaten cake. That was it.

What were you expecting

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

Some of the new automatic package cars have a wierd type of transmission that will roll away just like a manual. You most likely didn't have it in park. The e-brake is useless on a slope in these new cars. To any normal person this would be a defect but some idiot decided the cost savings was worth it.

Ummm Nope

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

Retired after 31 years driving accident free. I can tell you I dodged a lot of bullets. The company was so appreciative I came in my last day and was welcomed with a half eaten cake. That was it.

Did you want a parade and a party?

 

[over9five]

OK, it's 10:50. Do we know if he's fired yet?

 

[oldngray]

OK, it's 10:50. Do we know if he's fired yet?