tieguy
Banned
If you feel you can't help out someone near you then thats a problem management has created.
Safety Issue question
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If you feel you can't help out someone near you then thats a problem management has created.
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Stew
Tie has a hard time with understanding what some management is like elsewhere. He is a decent person, usually
as long as there is not a dill somewhere.
The issues lies with management that is only interested in getting the flow out of the building and into the trucks all within 3 hours or so.
As a steward in your building, you are in a position to change things. get with your business agent to make sure you are not sticking your neck out without his support (yes, there are some business agents that are a rubber stamp for the company). IF he does not support you, then go to the national.
You cant change UPS worldwide, but you can change your little part of it.
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Tie has a hard time with understanding what some management is like elsewhere. He is a decent person, usually
as long as there is not a dill somewhere.The issues lies with management that is only interested in getting the flow out of the building and into the trucks all within 3 hours or so.
As a steward in your building, you are in a position to change things. get with your business agent to make sure you are not sticking your neck out without his support (yes, there are some business agents that are a rubber stamp for the company). IF he does not support you, then go to the national.
You cant change UPS worldwide, but you can change your little part of it.
d
The first thing you should do is bring it to the attention of the worker, because unless the supervisor is standing there next to you, your leaving a unsafe enviroment to tell a supervisor about it, the here and now safety should take precedent over the underlying issue. Not saying the underlying issue doesnt need to be fixed but the direct safety of your coworkers should be the first concern.
tieguy
Banned
Stew
Tie has a hard time with understanding what some management is like elsewhere. He is a decent person, usually
The issues lies with management that is only interested in getting the flow out of the building and into the trucks all within 3 hours or so.
As a steward in your building, you are in a position to change things. get with your business agent to make sure you are not sticking your neck out without his support (yes, there are some business agents that are a rubber stamp for the company). IF he does not support you, then go to the national.
You cant change UPS worldwide, but you can change your little part of it.
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Danny I appreciate the support but I'm not all that sheltered from reality.
I think I understand the egress issue pretty well. You start filing grievance on management for egress and their going to start hammering hourlys who they feel are not doing their job in keeping the aisles clean.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Danny I appreciate the support but I'm not all that sheltered from reality.
I think I understand the egress issue pretty well. You start filing grievance on management for egress and their going to start hammering hourlys who they feel are not doing their job in keeping the aisles clean.
God forbid we actually solve the problem...I guess its a lot easier (and cheaper) to just bust balls and pretend we are doing something about it.
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Tie
IF that is what it takes to have a safe work environment is to hammer some hourly's, then so be it.
But are you willing to see it go the other way and have to do a 2 million dollar retrofit on a building that is being used 150-200% beyond it's capacity, and that not even during peak?
There are thousands of MDC's in use that are way to small for the average cube package of today. There are hundreds of converted gas stations, beauty parlors, what ever UPS could buy cheap, that have been converted as cheaply as possible to distribute packages.
Then there are brand new buildings that were built to our specs that were woefully too small on the first day of use.
I understand not having a building that is not utilized fully. Its wasted money. But with the larger average cube size, extra weight limits, much of what we have is not up to the task. Nor is there money to upgrade or fix those issues.
So yes, I will be the first to admit, we do have lazy employees that do not care about safety. But we also have our share of plant issues that were not properly addressed early on either.
So tell you what, you get all over those lazy employees, and we will file to have the buildings remodeled to where issues like that dont continue to happen every day. And the flow down the belt where they are stacked 3 wide, two high without any room to sort, all because of no money for a wider belt, or more employees to help the guy sorting who also has three package cars to load.
Your call.
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IF that is what it takes to have a safe work environment is to hammer some hourly's, then so be it.
But are you willing to see it go the other way and have to do a 2 million dollar retrofit on a building that is being used 150-200% beyond it's capacity, and that not even during peak?
There are thousands of MDC's in use that are way to small for the average cube package of today. There are hundreds of converted gas stations, beauty parlors, what ever UPS could buy cheap, that have been converted as cheaply as possible to distribute packages.
Then there are brand new buildings that were built to our specs that were woefully too small on the first day of use.
I understand not having a building that is not utilized fully. Its wasted money. But with the larger average cube size, extra weight limits, much of what we have is not up to the task. Nor is there money to upgrade or fix those issues.
So yes, I will be the first to admit, we do have lazy employees that do not care about safety. But we also have our share of plant issues that were not properly addressed early on either.
So tell you what, you get all over those lazy employees, and we will file to have the buildings remodeled to where issues like that dont continue to happen every day. And the flow down the belt where they are stacked 3 wide, two high without any room to sort, all because of no money for a wider belt, or more employees to help the guy sorting who also has three package cars to load.
Your call.
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