You said it yourself. MORALE is how much you like your job, not work ethic. Getting upset that a driver, or station, gets paid $3 more affects your morale. If that affects the way you do your job, that's a poor work ethic. I don't even care what the other's make at another station. I don't even care what the driver next to me makes. Those things are irrelevant on how I do my job. THAT is work ethic.
Sells vacation. More madness from you
When I was rehired in late '98 my mgr told me I would top out in about 7-8 years. Every year after that until I quit again in 2013 I heard him and other mgrs in other locations telling newhires the same thing, 7 to 8 years. Only they had no intention of doing so. When I quit almost 15 years after rehired I was making $18.17hr and top out was close to $24hr on the lowest payscale. So to make up the difference as much as possible I volunteered for most Saturdays and sold vacation. It improved my pension if nothing else. I'm currently in a private room in a nice city in southern Mexico for 3000 Pesos a month, a little less than $150 USD. I fried over a pound of chicken hearts and livers last night for the equivalent of 98 cents. My favorite restaurant here has meals for $5 to $7. In other words I'm doing what's necessary to make up for what I didn't get in my pension to pay off my bills and am comfortable doing so. You may do better than me, but you'll never persist like I do. People like you scoff, sneer, bitch at everything. Sometimes you've just got to buck up and take care of business but that's only if you have the backbone to do what's necessary.
Up to a point that's true. But when top out is about $5.25hr more than you make when you're hired and 15 years later it's almost $6hr more than you're making, you realize that you'll never do as well, have to accept you'll never afford some things you want, that your retirement won't be as good. It grinds on many. And I imagine a person trying to take care of kids would really have a problem with a company that tells you year over year that the company is looking at it, just hang in there, it's coming soon, but it never does. And then they finally implement a new pay policy that looks like a huge improvement, will top out in 9 years, then they start playing around with the raises. So be noble and carry on. I put in almost 29 years on the clock and messed up by quitting when I was topped out long ago. And found myself in the same boat as tens of thousands when I was rehired. As far as I'm concerned my work ethic consisted of always posting some of the best numbers in the station, always volunteering to work days off including Christmas, almost always taking freight from others when asked, volunteering to unload cans. But I never shied away from telling them their pay policies were unfair to midrange employees and did so in numerous meetings including to district directors. If that's a bad work ethic to you so be it.
If you believe that us older senior employees are catered to, YOU ARE WRONG. And because of the decades of work us employees "of the past" have done, you have a job in the present. I have had those young kids. I have worked through all kinds of personal hardships. We have been where you are. And I for one, am not at all impressed with you sir.
Its not a conundrum. Its a false dichotomy. There are other more positive examples that you have neglected to include.
Is an 8 hour lifeguard lazier than a 12 hour lifeguard? Like I said, hours worked at this dumpster fire are no indication of how hard you work.
You can be the hardest worker alive… but if you don’t know your worth, and fight for it… we’ll you’re just a purple & orange fool.
The older senior employees topped out way faster & have held their morning routes for decades. You’ve been where I am? No you haven’t. What did you make at 15 years? Was it half the pay scale? Any clue what difference that makes in a 401K? You can’t relate to us at all. You spent 2/3rds of your career at a completely different kind of company.
Ok.
I was seeing for a number of years before I retired in 2017 topped out couriers getting 3% raises on higher pay while midrange got 2% on lower pay. Talk about hurting morale. Worked hard all year and got a 32¢ raise while topped out got around 70¢(on lowest payscale). So yeah, higher raises, more vacation pay, bigger contributions to 401k and Portable Pension, and usually better routes for senior couriers. Not an issue when it only takes a few years to top out(I originally did in 23 months). But 10-15 years down the road and still nowhere near top pay?
The whole point of this discussion is morale vs work ethic. At least you understand the difference.
I can agree with that. But realize that it's YOUR choice to stay with the company. I'm not saying 'love it or leave it', but if you wake up every morning and say to yourself 'I hate this freaking place', then you're in the wrong place and should look for another job.
Ok.
Nice argument lol. High seniority employees have to be aware that the term “paying your dues” doesn’t mean the same thing to us as it did to them. Our dues are quite a bit more costly than theirs.
The first one. The second one gets a pass because he gets the job done and I can OLCC, WL, and PR him out of the other issues.
His question is a fair one. He's not denying that there are other examples, he's asking me my preference of the two he's talking about.
Depends. How many undelivered packages does he bring back to the building because "AH'M SMART CUZ AH DON' WURK NO MORE'N 8 AHRS"?
More than 8 hours worth of deliveries? Make me a 4-10 and give me another off day. Otherwise hire another driver and create another route. You schedule me for 8, you got me for 8.
Sounds like you can't handle it, snowflake. BUT THA SKEJUL!!!
Sounds like you've never seen an offer letter.
