Second Class Drivers

[Chester]

Intermittent FMLA days.... no problem, if you are approved for that.

And you are burning vacation days because of it.


Reoccurring, or 8 hr days because of FMLA ?

I call BS.


That would be an ADA accommodation.



-Bug-

You’re wrong vague union guy.

 

[BigBrown1234]

You’re wrong vague union guy.

He always talks out the side of his neck

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Ok.

Prove it.

Pg 56 of the Wage and Hour of the FMLA guidelines.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You’re wrong vague union guy.

He always talks out the side of his neck

What do you think I'm wrong about ?

I can briefly explain it to you.



-Bug-

 

[Frankie's Friend]

He always talks out the side of his neck

 

[BigUnionGuy]

He always talks out the side of his neck

That's funny.

The person that can't understand "Robert's Rules of Order" and how to apply them.


All she had to do.... is ask me.



-Bug-

 

[BigBrown1234]

That's funny.

The person that can't understand "Robert's Rules of Order" and how to apply them.


All she had to do.... is ask me.



-Bug-

I always attempt to dumb down my response for you to understand.
But it’s really exhausting.
I need to be in the mood but I’m not sitting on the crapper. Wait till around noon, I feel the tummy a rumbling.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I need to be in the mood but I’m not sitting on the crapper. Wait till around noon, I feel the tummy a rumbling.

Wow.

Thanks for sharing all that information.

 

[BigBrown1234]

Wow.

Thanks for sharing all that information.

By the way, where did you get your law degree?

I’m reporting you to your state State Bar.

Attempting to Legally Interpreting Law is a big no no if you haven’t passed your States Bar exam.

 

[Chester]

What do you think I'm wrong about ?

I can briefly explain it to you.



-Bug-

You’re wrong often and most of your responses lack facts. What I posted earlier is
100% fact but you wanna act like a know it all.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You’re wrong often and most of your responses lack facts. What I posted earlier is
100% fact but you wanna act like a know it all.

Ok.

I’m reporting you to your state State Bar.

That's kind of like your "thing".


Report and whine.

 

[BigBrown1234]

Ok.





That's kind of like your "thing".


Report and whine.

Oh you got me good.
Damn how will I ever recover.
It only took you an hour to think of that cleaver response.

 

[brown_trousers]

Feeder drivers know this well...”I’m taking myself out of service.... I’m fatigued “....honestly, how many package car drivers know they can do the same thing.... not many, especially the younger drivers....I bet most onroads would think a driver was joking if they answered a call pertaining to that...

Oh goodness! Is this a real law or DOT regulation? Id like to know more.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

A State or JAC panel would never make a "blanket" ruling like that.

It would be " based on the facts in this instant case....".





Your doctor is delusional. That would be an ADA type situation and there is no chance

that would fly. Maybe back in the 90's when the ADA was implemented.... not now.





Never heard of that one.

The only risk you run, is the company could require a "fitness for duty" evaluation.


It's kind of a dealers choice situation.

Maybe get approved for FMLA or go the route of fatigue, and make the company prove

a case against you. Because then again.... At least in the Central Region....


What is the mutually accepted standard on attendance ?

Hint: there is none.



-Bug-

On attendance (here) it is 6 infractions in a rolling 9 mo period to be maxed out without discipline.
At 7 ... warning ltr
At 8 ... suspension
At 9 ... termination (or trip to the state panel).

 

[Chester]

On attendance (here) it is 6 infractions in a rolling 9 mo period to be maxed out without discipline.
At 7 ... warning ltr
At 8 ... suspension
At 9 ... termination (or trip to the state panel).

We don’t have an attendance article in our contract here. Do you get any paid sick days? We dont

 

[Frankie's Friend]

@Chester is correct on daily reduced hours on fmla

We don’t have an attendance article in our contract here. Do you get any paid sick days? We dont

The 2 option days were negotiated in place of sick days here.
Gotta schedule 8 calendar days ahead of you're going to be sick.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

We don’t have an attendance article in our contract here. Do you get any paid sick days? We dont

There is no language reduced to writing on attendance here.
This is what the management enforces.

 

[Coldworld]

Oh goodness! Is this a real law or DOT regulation? Id like to know more.

You can pull yourself out of service and there’s nothing they can do about it....DOT I believe and most feeder drivers know about it but pkg car guys fall under the same rules...

 

[1989]

On attendance (here) it is 6 infractions in a rolling 9 mo period to be maxed out without discipline.
At 7 ... warning ltr
At 8 ... suspension
At 9 ... termination (or trip to the state panel).

Ours says something like that.... But now it’s obsolete.

 

[brown_trousers]

You can pull yourself out of service and there’s nothing they can do about it....DOT I believe and most feeder drivers know about it but pkg car guys fall under the same rules...

Holy crap! Why has this not been discussed before? It cant be real.

After working 45hrs mon-thu, i feel fatigued and unsafe to drive friday... i can see myself getting used to that