Seniority Violation Grievance

[over9five]

"Jim" and I both started at 16:00. We're both shifting now at 03:30 (10 1/2 hours). It's slowed down so they can let one of us leave. Who should go home?

HERE, the senior man will be given the option to go home. Seniority rules in all instances.

 

[anonymous4]

Again, I would argue seniority DOES give you the right NOT TO WORK. I am in NE just like you, and I have seen grievances won on the topic of VLOs so you are wrong.

 

[menotyou]

What's a vlo?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

All language in my supplement says seniority gives you the right to work. No where does it says it gives you the right to not to work.

In the Central Region, the week between Christmas and New Years.... And the week of the 4th of July, are the only weeks specified

that anytime off is strictly by seniority. Any other time, has always be quite a contentious issue.

The company tries to spread the wealth.... and give everyone a shot.... but, it lends itself to abuse.

Over the years, higher seniority people have tried to push the envelope.

The company's response has always been, to threaten to lay-off the bottom.... And everyone else works.... everyday.

Hasn't happened.... {kind of an idle threat} because they need the additional bodies "in case".


The issue is a double edge sword. One thought comes to mind.... "Be careful of what you wish for".



-Bug-

 

[anonymous4]

Voluntary lay-off

 

[menotyou]

Only one time did I take advantage of the offer when I was pt. I drive 30 minutes one way to work, and they normally found some air for me to deliver. When I went FT, the on-car will call you at home. I love that.

 

[menotyou]

Voluntary lay-off

Thank you.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Voluntary lay-off

No further acquisition of seniority.... Loss of medical benefits.... No pension credit....

Plausible.... You might be on to something.


And people wonder why.... the company doesn't want to create, and maintain anymore 22.3 jobs.



-Bug-

 

[anonymous4]

Another scenario management can exploit is offering the VLO to people who are known to file against soups working. Get rid of 2 or 3 in an area and you can have your supervisors work without repercussion. This is done whenever possible.

 

[menotyou]

Another scenario management can exploit is offering the VLO to people who are known to file against soups working. Get rid of 2 or 3 in an area and you can have your supervisors work without repercussion. This is done whenever possible.

They try this here, too.

 

[Jones]

Again show me in the contract where it says that other than for vacation seniority gives you the right NOT to work. All language in my supplement says seniority gives you the right to work. No where does it says it gives you the right to not to work.

One day and more lay offs go in seniority order bottom to top.

Under the Atlantic Area Supplement voluntary time off must be offered in seniority order.

 

[tardus]

Article 48 Section 2 mentions that "Voluntary time off will be offered in seniority order." This is an important Section to remember if you happen to get laid off (or sent home) when senior guys wanted the time off.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Article 48 Section 2 mentions that "Voluntary time off will be offered in seniority order." This is an important Section to remember if you happen to get laid off (or sent home) when senior guys wanted the time off.

How does area knowledge play in to this?