Seniority

[mercury7]

Yes I try to give the best answer to serve their interests not mine or refer them to someone who I believe can help. At the end of the day, we all bleed red. The human element has been forgotten in our company.

PS...

Allergic to bs

 

[upschuck]

PS...

Allergic to bs

You better have a bottle of Claritan with you at work.

 

[mercury7]

I've just had too many times management has not followed through on what they say they will do. Give them a concrete answer in days, and refer to steward, unless management would want you to tell them yourself. Your job, as management, is to address the workers concerns.

We get the same beat down as hourlies do only we don't have the union to stop the harassment. People on this site are way too harsh on anyone that claims to be management

 

[upschuck]

We get the same beat down as hourlies do only we don't have the union to stop the harassment. People on this site are way too harsh on anyone that claims to be management

That is why most people here say not to go into PT management.

 

[Brownslave688]

Best management answer to give employee asking about seniority date and joining the union...

Play dumb I thought that's what sups did best? Lol jk

Why would u care? Just tell them I don't know.

 

[Brownslave688]

I've just had too many times management has not followed through on what they say they will do. Give them a concrete answer in days, and refer to steward, unless management would want you to tell them yourself. Your job, as management, is to address the workers concerns.

I would strongly disagree with this statement. Managements job is to supervise you and make sure you do things the way they want u to. Who cares if you like it or not.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Mercury----you did the right thing. Dave.

 

[mercury7]

That is why most people here say not to go into PT management.

That was a long time ago. Things were way different back then. I was married and in school. Management was different too. Pre 9/11 I stay at ups for the benefits and rate of pay

 

[upschuck]

I would strongly disagree with this statement. Managements job is to supervise you and make sure you do things the way they want u to. Who cares if you like it or not.

I didn't say you had to agree with what the sup tells you, but you bring a concern to sup, it is up to them to address that concern, and to facilitate a resolution.

 

[mercury7]

You're the supervisor....why ask an hourly? lol. You say, Hey Fresh Meat, this is ______ the shop steward. End of conversation. Didn't they teach you that at Slip and Fall school...I mean...management training?

Don't think there are just hourlies on here.

 

[Catatonic]

I didn't say you had to agree with what the sup tells you, but you bring a concern to sup, it is up to them to address that concern, and to facilitate a resolution.

And one of those resolutions may be to tell the person that tried to dump the problem on them to figure it out themselves.
Management does not do the person or themselves any favors by providing the solution every time. I tried to take the time to help the person analyze the problem and guide them to solve the problem themselves.

 

[mercury7]

And one of those resolutions may be to tell the person that tried to dump the problem on them to figure it out themselves.
Management does not do the person or themselves any favors by providing the solution every time. I tried to take the time to help the person analyze the problem and guide them to solve the problem themselves.

What....no comment for me, Photog?

 

[Harry Manback]

And one of those resolutions may be to tell the person that tried to dump the problem on them to figure it out themselves.
Management does not do the person or themselves any favors by providing the solution every time. I tried to take the time to help the person analyze the problem and guide them to solve the problem themselves.

I disagree. The company doesn't want anyone, including management, to figure anything out for themselves. That's IE's job.


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[upschuck]

Management does not do the person or themselves any favors by providing the solution every time. I tried to take the time to help the person analyze the problem and guide them to solve the problem themselves

Management is there to help facilitate the needs of the workers to get the job done. It is not to belittle, harass, or berate the employee. And part of that facilitation is to answer any questions that arise.

Now for the situation for the OP, management is the only one that would know the official amount of days left(resolution) to the employees concern.

So what you are saying is that when employee does things that management disapproves, that it is ok because the employee was solving the problem themselves, and not asking management personnel.