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Bad Moon Risen'
The wages negotiated in the contracts are only minimums. UPS has every right to pay PTers more if they see fit.
Somehow I don't see that happening in the near future.
Should The Next Contract Address "Scabs?"
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Somehow I don't see that happening in the near future.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
UPS does do that in some locations via bonuses and/or Tuition Reimbursement program.
Wage increases are highly unlikely as these are part of the contract financial terms.
PT Car Washer
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Last Peak UPS was advertising for seasonal package handlers at $15/hr, except no one was hired as a seasonal. All permanent PT with Nov, Dec and Jan seniority dates.
rod
Retired 23 years
Did they get to stay at $15 an hour?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Seasonal wages are a supplement item.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Are they getting $15/hr as seniority P/T hourly?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Good question. If they were hired @ $15/hr as a seasonal would they have to take a pay cut if hired as a permanent P/T package handler or would they be red circled?
Ron Carey lives on
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They avoided contract raises and progression? I don't think so
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PT Car Washer
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No one was hired as seasonal. All permanent PT at $10/hr.
The radio advertisements were just a come on to get people to apply. I don't think anyone was actually hired as a seasonal at $15/hr. All were hired permanent at $10/hr.
Ron Carey lives on
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I think if they opt out of union they should have wear special uniforms "ups scabs"
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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...even if they pay an "agency fee"...?
We had a driver who is no longer with the company who wanted to opt out of the union. He was told he would have to pay roughly 95% of the monthly dues as an "agency fee". As you can imagine he changed his mind.
MC4YOU2
Wherever I see Trump, it smells like he's Putin.
Since many serve their country by doing a civilian job, I'd say the comparison would be more fairly aimed at a tax evader. Yes, I'd consider a tax evader a scab. Dues are a financial fee, like a tax. Military service, while honorable in the highest degree, is one of personal sacrifices and dedication.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Many people in the USA evade taxes by not working.
Some people evade taxes by paying $20,000/year when they should be paying $30,000/year.
I would consider the first type more of a scab than the second.
Although I would never use the word scab to describe either or a person that chooses not to pay Union dues.
It's like calling a pear an apple ... sort of alike but not.
But i'm OK with the misuse of the term since it makes me feel better about myself.
Tax evaders... Do you report everything you buy off the internet on your taxes when you file like your suppose to..? Have you ever grown a vegetable garden in your back yard... According to the tax laws if you do, you have to report it to the IRS as part of your income...
One of the reasons they broke off/left England originally was to get away from paying taxes...
One of the reasons they broke off/left England originally was to get away from paying taxes...
MC4YOU2
Wherever I see Trump, it smells like he's Putin.
Like most folks and and probably yourself, I pay whatever tax is charged to me. As for the taxable veggie garden, I'm assuming you must mean those who grow, then sell or trade their crop. We call them farmers, not scabs. And, by the way, we need more of them.
oldngray
nowhere special
If you don't sell anything you grow it is not income.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I think that if they join the Union they should have to wear a special patch with "their name" on it ... upside down.
That way they can glance down and keep up with who they are.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
What if you smoke it?
oldngray
nowhere special
You walk around with a smile on your face and tend to eat more real food?
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