So it begins

[burrheadd]

Do you think elected officials are just some random personoff the street....

that has never done the jobbefore ?

Here is your quote

I was just responding

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Neither one was employed by UPS.

So I'm not sure, of the purpose was of cracking on James Jr.


Cheap shot ?

I am fairly certain that you know why....people feel the way that they do about "James Jr.".

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You're quoting yourself....

With misspellings included.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I am fairly certain that you know why....people feel the way that they do about "James Jr.".

Because they don't have the guts.... to stand up for themselves ?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Because they don't have the guts.... to stand up for themselves ?

Yes.... exactly. He is fortunate that you have not chosen to run against him.

 

[burrheadd]

You're quoting yourself....

With misspellings included.

That’s all ya got

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

That’s all ya got

Be careful- you are messing with a.... Big Union Guy. Lol.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

That’s all ya got

Be careful- you are messing with a.... Big Union Guy. Lol.

If you were trying to make a point.... I missed it.

Try again.

 

[twoweeled]

Do you think elected officials are just some random person off the street....

that has never done the job before ?





Just say'n dude.



-Bug-

Judging by the performance of our negotiators and our present contract, someone could assume that.

 

[twoweeled]

All the more reason to plan for retirement, and stay healthy.


Just say'n dude.



-Bug-

Part of that planning for retirement, could include getting competent negotiators to negotiate a good health plan for our retirement. I guess, getting good negotiators to do what they are payed for. Payed by us, not UPS.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Judging by the performance of our negotiators and our present contract, someone could assume that.

I'm guessing, you have never served the membership.... in an elected position.

Or, negotiated a contract. Do you know what "fact finding" is ?

Part of that planning for retirement, could include getting competent negotiators to negotiate a good health plan for our retirement.

There was 30 year veteran who posted (recently).... that in 30 years....

had no savings, and was relying just on his pension ?

I guess, getting good negotiators to do what they are payed for. Payed by us, not UPS.

All dues paying members, have the opportunity to vote for elected officials.

Hate the game.... not the player.


@twoweeled....Life is not fair.

Anyone running for office that says they could change things, is lying.

Fred Z is a prime example.



-Bug-

 

[twoweeled]

I'm guessing, you have never served the membership.... in an elected position.

Or, negotiated a contract. Do you know what "fact finding" is ?





There was 30 year veteran who posted (recently).... that in 30 years....

had no savings, and was relying just on his pension ?





All dues paying members, have the opportunity to vote for elected officials.

Hate the game.... not the player.


@twoweeled....Life is not fair.

Anyone running for office that says they could change things, is lying.

Fred Z is a prime example.



-Bug-

1. No, Yes.

2. Wrong thing to do not saving and preparing, but making it even more difficult on him doesn't make it any better by raising expenses on healthcare or anything else for that matter when now on a fixed income.

3. a. If I get your point correctly, Zuckerman isn't in office. b. AS far as anyone running or in office not being able to change things? True, not alone anyways. I get the difficulty of that. I really do. I've always felt the membership cutting our own throats for not standing up or stepping forward.

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

If you were trying to make a point.... I missed it.

Try again.

Ok- are you.... a Big Union Guy or a.... Big Union Tough Talker? Lmao

 

[Bubblehead]

Ok- are you.... a Big Union Guy or a.... Big Union Tough Talker? Lmao

Rhetorical?

 

[Article 3]

All the more reason to plan for retirement, and stay healthy.


Just say'n dude.



-Bug-

If staying healthy was attainable all on our own then I would say that's on us. We do our best and hope for longevity but as you we'll know, it's not always our call.

 

[Bubblehead]

Anyone running for office that says they could change things, is lying

This quote speaks volumes....


....and is contrary to the very notion of a union.



~Bbbl~™

 

[burrheadd]

I'm guessing, you have never served the membership.... in an elected position.

Or, negotiated a contract. Do you know what "fact finding" is ?





There was 30 year veteran who posted (recently).... that in 30 years....

had no savings, and was relying just on his pension ?





All dues paying members, have the opportunity to vote for elected officials.

Hate the game.... not the player.


@twoweeled....Life is not fair.

Anyone running for office that says they could change things, is lying.

Fred Z is a prime example.



-Bug-

Do you ever get tired of defending these schmucks?

Starting to look foolish

Jmo

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Do you ever get tired of defending these schmucks?

Starting to look foolish

Jmo

You have a right to your opinion.

I've seen things from an angle most members haven't and that's what I base

my opinion on. Let's face it.... when only 30% of the members even bother to

vote on their own contract, it's hard not to believe my opinion is correct.



-Bug-

 

[Bubblehead]

You have a right to your opinion.

I've seen things from an angle most members haven't and that's what I base

my opinion on. Let's face it.... when only 30% of the members even bother to

vote on their own contract, it's hard not to believe my opinion is correct.



-Bug-

Was it always that way?....

.....or is "that way" being driven by the status quo???

It's almost like they prefer and depend in it being "that way", as there's certainly been no attempts to curb this "status quo"?

.....with the recent notable exception of Sean O, and we know what happened to him.




~Bbbl~™

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Was it always that way?....

.....or is "that way" being driven by the status quo???

It's almost like they prefer and depend in it being "that way", as there's certainly been no attempts to curb this "status quo"?

.....with the recent notable exception of Sean O, and we know what happened to him.




~Bbbl~™

What was the line -scb- used to say ?

"You can lead a teamster to knowledge.... but, you can't make him think." ?

Something like that.


I don't have all the answers.

Most times.... I am just trying to defend what I see as absolute BS.

(and there is a considerable amount)



-Bug-