Strike in August, what say you?

Heavy Package

Well-Known Member
What are they doing with pension and healthcare? I havent heard anything about those 2 issues

Agreed. All rumor and speculation for now, If you think UPS wants to add to those rather than take away from them, I've got a bridge to sell you in Arizona.

I have heard rumors of us paying 25% for our health insurance.
 

rod

Retired 23 years
I don't think any rational member wants to strike. I know I don't. With tax cuts and volume and record profits - all noted by UPS - there should be plenty of give and take to go around this year.

But UPS has us boxed in a corner by all accounts. I note the following truths:

1. 70 hr work weeks allowed during peak
2. Proposing no consecutive days off and pushing for Sunday delivery
3. Not coming to the table or countering our proposals
4. Excessive OT and harassment (in many parts of the country)
5. PT pay issues
6. Outsourcing freight, feeder, and package ( with surepost) jobs
7. The way they are treating our airline mechanics contract

The final straw is messing with pension and healthcare this contract. It's time to stand up and strike this year. It will help us hold the line for another 5 years with UPS.

Apparently you are new to the company
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Agreed. All rumor and speculation for now, If you think UPS wants to add to those rather than take away from them, I've got a bridge to sell you in Arizona.

I have heard rumors of us paying 25% for our health insurance.

I am under TeamCare in the Central, currently the Company is paying over 416 dollars a week to the Union to cover my Health and Welfare coverage. Let's do the math, that would mean that we would have to pay out of our pockets 100 a week to maintain the same coverage. Just how much a Health and Welfare package you can buy for over 1600 a month on the open market, can imagine that it would be a good one.

It does bring up a good point about getting the facts on just how well our individual Health and Welfare providers are doing financially. I believe TeamCare is doing OK, I could be wrong on that statement but so far no indication of distress noted.

Rumor and Speculation till we get it on paper. That is when the fun starts.
 
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thisjobaintforeverybody

Guest
Any strike or major work slowdown would cause Amazon, Wal-mart, and the likes to suspend any kind of 2day guarantee to prime members, etc. Only providing us with more leverage.

UPS is currently delivering upwards of 20 Million parcels per day. Not sure where it was in 97 but I'm guessing single digits. The other carriers couldn't handle the volume then, sure as hell couldn't handle it now


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Delivered

Well-Known Member
It does bring up a good point about getting the facts on just how well our individual Health and Welfare providers are doing financially. I believe TeamCare is doing OK, I could be wrong on that statement but so far no indication of distress noted.
Net assets for Teamcare were $5,713,271 at September 30, 2017, compared to $5,050,226 at December 31, 2016, an increase of $663,045. A 13% increase.

With 189,701 Active Participants and 7,242 Retirees
 

brown_trousers

Well-Known Member
Net assets for Teamcare were $5,713,271 at September 30, 2017, compared to $5,050,226 at December 31, 2016, an increase of $663,045. A 13% increase.

With 189,701 Active Participants and 7,242 Retirees
I would consider healthcare a major national issue worth striking for. Though alot of the other issues are just not significant enough to justify a strike in my opinion
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
I would consider healthcare a major national issue worth striking for. Though alot of the other issues are just not significant enough to justify a strike in my opinion

Would that include (retiree's healthcare) is that worth striking over. How about the elimination of full-time opportunities for the part time workforce, Mickey Mouse not really, no harm done suspensions or terminations (harassment), the split General Wage Increases (it is not a 1.00 hourly increase but works out to be a 75 cent one.

It is one big package, the l997 strike was driven to help the failing Teamster's pension trusts and to create more full time positions inside or out (monetary contributions). That was the internationals reasoning, why it worked was that the members held together fueled by all the company's arrogance with the (Last, Best,Final Offer).

Seriously this is a battle for respect. That is what I have been hearing on the rumor mill from the negotiators.

Grant your point nobody wants a strike, 2 or 3 weeks out without a full paycheck sucks. The strike option is the ONLY tool that the Union has, I flashback to a line in "Alien 2" where one of the marines was told not to carry life ammunition his come back was classic.
 
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Frankie's Friend

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UPS is currently delivering upwards of 20 Million parcels per day. Not sure where it was in 97 but I'm guessing single digits.
Try 11 mil in 97.
You sure we deliver 20 mil daily now? That encludes e-documents.
 

Delivered

Well-Known Member
Try 11 mil in 97.
You sure we deliver 20 mil daily now? That encludes e-documents.
PACKAGE OPERATIONS

2017 revenue $54 billion
2017 global delivery volume 5.1 billion packages and documents
Daily global delivery volume 20 million packages and documents
Daily U.S. air volume 2.9 million packages and documents
Daily international volume 3.1 million packages and documents
 
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Frankie's Friend

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PACKAGE OPERATIONS

2017 revenue $54 billion
2017 global delivery volume 5.1 billion packages and documents
Daily global delivery volume 20 million packages and documents
Daily U.S. air volume 2.9 million packages and documents
Daily international volume 3.1 million packages and documents
Includes e-docs.
Average actual package volume is around 16-17 mil/day as of 2017 numbers.
 
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