IWBF tries to limit the focus to merely leasing the vehicle to XG. Trouble is, it's all the OTHER CONDITIONS that are attached to overall terms. Conditions that are so captive and so restrictive that they serve wipe out even the most basic tenants of a legitimate business climate.
Stupid arguments about the Ground business model
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It will be fine
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The other terms are standard for leasing on to a motor carrier.
AB831
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A guy who sells old NASCAR diecasts on eBay has more of a claim to owning a business than IWBF. I really don’t understand why this distinction is so important to him. I guess it is ego, like you said.
AB831
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Make no mistake. The only ownership in play here is his ass by Fat Freddy. In any “partnership” with Fat Freddy, he has 100% of the control, and you have 0. If those scales move even slightly, he’ll drop you like a hot potato like he did with Amazon. Only thing is, chumps like IWBF have absolutely zero recourse in this “business” “partnership.”
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Wouldn't it be better to evict the tenants, rather than wipe them out?
AB831
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Lmao
It will be fine
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What recourse do you think businesses should have against their customers?
Fred's Myth
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Unless you're a cake maker in Colorado, you could refuse service to them.
Like hell they are! They control everything right down to the appearance of both the driver and the vehicle. And it's all right there in the appearance language of that one sided contract they slap down on the table in front of you.
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Mellow out fella. You don't work there any more and you still let Fred in your tiny mind, 24/7. Sad
It will be fine
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Motor carriers set appearance guidelines for operators that lease on to their authority. It’s standard.
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I can refuse to service FedEx with a 30 day notice, I don’t even need a religious objection.
AB831
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None, but I’m not sure how the question applies here, because FedEx is the only actual business in this equation.
AB831
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And they’d find another chump to do their bidding in ten minutes. And what good would that do you exactly? You’re really grasping at straws here to proclaim your “independence.”
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LOL At Ground they are not "guidelines" or "suggestions" . Come in and you're not wearing uniform ? Go home and don't come back until you're in one.
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You’re the one that brought up my lack of recourse. I’m asking what you think that means. It’s clear you don’t even understand your own argument.
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It’s obvious you don’t have any understanding of how independent owners lease on to motor carriers.
AB831
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He talks about FredEx like they’re 50/50 business partners. If that’s what he has to tell himself to sleep at night, that’s fine, but in reality, Fat Freddy is holding a royal flush while he’s left holding jokers.
AB831
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It means that if you want to maintain your status quo, that it can only be carried out by complete submission to the will of FedEx, and there’s not one damn thing you can do about it.
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What would I want to do about it? FedEx is my customer, they want a service provided to their standards. If your customer wants a hamburger what’s your recourse if you sell crackers? Your argument makes no sense.
